Differences EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana * Pls post pics*

[FowlStuff]

The "wild type" chick markings mean that they are EEs.

Cute little guys.

Silver Ameraucana chicks have "wild type" phenotype, so that isn't always true. Check out the photos of day-old Ameraucana chicks on the Ameraucana Alliance site.
http://ameraucanaalliance.org/photos.html

 

[Alaskan]

Ah, I had forgotten, or didn't know, that silver was now a recognized color.

However, those wing feathers coming in, don't look silver to me.

I also don't think the silver chick picture on the Ameraucana website look like pure "wild type", they do have some of the wild features though.

I might just need to look at more photos of silver chicks, especially since that is not a color I am familiar with.

 

[aart]

WTH is 'wild type'??
Got examples?

 

[Alaskan]

"Wild type" is typified by the light brown Leghorn chicks.

It is a brown chick with stripes, exactly as in the photo posted earlier in this thread:

Another example:

As you breed other color chickens, you are adding different modifiers to the base wild type.

Some things only slightly change the wild type.

For example, Dark Brown Leghorns are just a darker version of the wild type.

Here is an excellent exert all about chuck down, genetic modifiers, and the wild type chicks
From http://sellers.kippenjungle.nl/page2.html


Genetics of chick down color:

Virtually everyone who hatches their own baby chicks wants to know what the chick down color tells them about the genes of that individual chick. This section is an effort to give some guidance in this direction.
Some Basic Chick Down Color Genetics
Chick Down Genotype
Phenotypic Remarks
E, Extended Black basically black down. Variation includes gray and cream bellies. The cream can invade the head and face. Often Australorps have cream in their faces and heads although the adults are standard black color. Sex-linked barring puts the cream head spot on the black down. Recessive mottling (mo) makes these chicks look like penguins
e^Wh, Dominant Wheaten Without columbian (Co) Wheaten down is a light cream for both sex-linked silver and gold. One cannot distinguish silver from gold with any accuracy on dominant wheaten. Heterozygotes can have varying amounts of striping. Some New Hamps have light reddish stripes on their backs at hatch. This may be due to heterozygousity or some other modifiers in these lines. With Co wheaten downs are easily sexable. There is a high degree of difference between silver and gold wheaten down when columbian is present. This is why commercial white-tailed reds have dominant wheaten and columbian.
e+, Wild-type The dark eye stripe is characteristic of wild-type. The wild-type is often referred to as the 'chipmunk' look. The buff color of the face and back stripes are affected by sex-linked silver and gold. You can easily tell Silver Duckwing chicks from Light Brown Leghorns, but you tend to have trouble in crosses, involving Ss heterozygotes, so there are probably modifiers that affect the gold color of the pure line chicks.
eb, Brown Can range from a solid dark mink brown to light brown with stripes. The most accurate typing for eb is that they have brown heads with no stripes on the head like ebc.
ebc, Buttercup more yellow than e+. This dilution may be due to ebc or Db that seems to be in all the crosses and pictures involving this allele. Adult females are like eb females and do not have salmon breasts.
ey, Recessive Wheaten Sometimes pictured as being yellow but more brown than e^Wh. Both are said to be cream in color. Recessive wheatens are often called dark wheatens because the adult females have more stippling on their backs than dominant wheaten females usually have.
eb,Co Chicks having sex-linked silver in addition to the above genes are cream colored with varying amounts of gray on their backs. Their backs can be nearly black. Sex-linked gold chicks show buff on their flanks and faces and cream bellies with the same varying amount of gray on their backs. The less gray the more buff on the backs of sex-linked gold chicks.
eb, Co, Db Mostly light (yellow) body with brown head and back stripe. Buff breeds may have wheaten, Co, and Db.
Some additional genes that affect chick down color are: Dominant and recessive white with extended black at the E-locus gives yellow chick down. If black spots leak through it is usually because the chick is heterozygous for dominant white. Dark prown, Db, makes the black down of extended black to be a reddish brown. Blue or grey chicks can be extended black and Bl (blue) heterozygotes. These chicks can also look black. Chicks that are homozygous for recessive lavender are blue / grey.

 

[FowlStuff]

WTH is 'wild type'??
Got examples?

The E-locus gene e+ is wildtype. These are LF silver Ameraucana chicks that are based on e+.

 

[Alaskan]

WTH is 'wild type'?? Got examples?

The E-locus gene e+ is wildtype. These are LF silver Ameraucana chicks that are based on e+.

Thanks! And note that though they have the stripes, their base color is different.

 

[aart]

I just call that 'chipmunk'....but I'm a genetics idiot, makes my head spin.
Thanks for the explanations, tho.

 

[FowlStuff]

Silver has been a recognized variety of Ameraucana, by the APA, as long as the other varieties. They were all accepted at the same time by them.
Wildtype or "normal" refers to all the genes that make up the Red Junglefowl, since it is considered the original chicken that all chickens are descended from.
The E-locus base is just one gene involved and silver Ameraucanas are e+ there, which in wildtype...like Red Junglefowl. The S-locus of silver Ameraucanas is "S" for silver (white) color. Red Junglefowl are s+ there, which is gold color. The "+" means that gene is the wildtype gene.
Email me for a list of Links to chicken genetics sites.

 

[Alaskan]

Huh! Silly me!

(That silver was recognized with the other colors)

I have been so stuck on BBS and Wheaten Ameraucana that it is hard for me to see any others

 

[Elliotts Eggs]

There has obviously been much discussion on these "colorful layers". I am new to BYC and going on my second season raising chickens. Last year I bought 8 RIR and they are amazing little layers. So this year I wanted some colorful eggs and just a different variety in general so I bought 8 of the cuties in the pic and they are super happy. They were marketed as "Aracaunas-Americauna strain". Did they just use the names because people know those species and they are in fact just "EE mutts"? I don't much care as I just like doing it for the eggs and fun with my 7 year old daughter. But I'm curious to what you folks with much more experience think. Btw they do have tiny little tails. Thanks all!