Differences EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana * Pls post pics*

[Hinotori]

Yes it's the wild type coloring with a few modifiers. Most hatchery EEs are some form of the wild type color

 

[Taote]

The patterning through the chest indicates she's 'wild-type' partridge. The cockerel appears to have the Columbian restrictor. He's also got one gene for silver base color, and one for red/gold. Both appear to have a copy of the Blue dilute gene. About half the offspring will be silver and and the other half will be gold/red, males will have red leakage like their father. About half will also have his Columbian restrictor. About 25% will not inherit the Blue gene. 50% will inherit a single copy. And 25% will inherit two copies, making them Splash. All chicks should be pea combed, none will have muffs/beards.

I so appreciate the response, and I'll spend some time researching and digesting that information. I'm 8 weeks into my first chicken flock, and my first priority was to give them an awesome start. Now I want to begin the process of thoroughly understanding them. Maybe not for all the breeds we selected for our flock, but the EEs for sure.

 

[Taote]

The patterning through the chest indicates she's 'wild-type' partridge. The cockerel appears to have the Columbian restrictor. He's also got one gene for silver base color, and one for red/gold. Both appear to have a copy of the Blue dilute gene. About half the offspring will be silver and and the other half will be gold/red, males will have red leakage like their father. About half will also have his Columbian restrictor. About 25% will not inherit the Blue gene. 50% will inherit a single copy. And 25% will inherit two copies, making them Splash. All chicks should be pea combed, none will have muffs/beards.

So if I'm understanding correctly, none of the resulting pullets would end up with the wild-type partridge pattern / coloring from Opal. If I wanted to hatch more like her, what would you recommend?

p.s. found this page for further reading, and re-reading, and probably a few more readings while tracking down referenced materials before I will be able to apply that knowledge to actual live birds.

http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html

 

[junebuggena]

So if I'm understanding correctly, none of the resulting pullets would end up with the wild-type partridge pattern / coloring from Opal. If I wanted to hatch more like her, what would you recommend?

p.s. found this page for further reading, and re-reading, and probably a few more readings while tracking down referenced materials before I will be able to apply that knowledge to actual live birds.

http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html

It depends on what else the rooster is carrying. As I said, about half will inherit a columbian restrictor, half might not. The rooster might be wild-type as well, we just can't see it thanks that restrictor gene.

 

[Taote]

http://naturalchickenkeeping.blogspot.com/2013/01/blue-genes-chicken-genetics-made-almost.html?m=1

This page is helpful - now I understand more about how the many modifiers can enhance, dilute or restrict colors.

 

[Alaskan]

those are some good links.

I also like this guy's plug in calculator:

The simple one:

http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

The complex one:

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

[Taote]

those are some good links.

I also like this guy's plug in calculator:

The simple one:

http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

The complex one:

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

Thanks! I like the complicated calculator, and if I go back and forth between it and the "genetics made [almost] easy page," I can make pretty good progress.

 

[Taote]

I rescind my question below, lol. I have a lot of reading to do before I ask more questions!

---- my uninformed question:

I'm thinking I'll need another roo from a different gene pool. These both came from Mt. Healthy, and are probably siblings. We were supposed to get a Wellsumer Roo, but didnt, so with 20 pullets, we could handle another roo. Would have been better to raise them all together, though.

The answer, from a quick search on "inbreeding chickens": Inline breeding, done properly is preferred to adding new bloodlines with potentially troublesome genetics.

Guess I should also wait to see what her eggs will look like too, because I'd like a nice blue from her.

 

[Alaskan]

Hatcheries are usually so big, I would guess a single lot of chicks probably aren't that closely related, and might not be at all related.

 

[junebuggena]

I rescind my question below, lol. I have a lot of reading to do before I ask more questions!

---- my uninformed question:

I'm thinking I'll need another roo from a different gene pool. These both came from Mt. Healthy, and are probably siblings. We were supposed to get a Wellsumer Roo, but didnt, so with 20 pullets, we could handle another roo. Would have been better to raise them all together, though.

The answer, from a quick search on "inbreeding chickens": Inline breeding, done properly is preferred to adding new bloodlines with potentially troublesome genetics.

Guess I should also wait to see what her eggs will look like too, because I'd like a nice blue from her.

Doubt they are direct siblings. Possibly half siblings at the closest.