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Differences EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana * Pls post pics*

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Actually, designating a group of animals as a breed does not rely on having a written standard, it only requires that the animals are able to consistently reproduce 'copies' of themselves. In fact, pretty much every breed of animal or bird known to man developed without a standard; I can't think of one where someone sat down and wrote a standard first and then started to breed toward it, can you?

I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species.

Natural species and subspecies have nothing to do with "breeds"; breeds are artificially created and must be artificially maintained. As far as the APA standard being the end all be all of what constitutes a "breed" of chicken, well, no, they aren't. The fact that something isn't in the Sop doesn't mean it's not a breed, it only means it's not been recognized by the APA because not enough people with that particular kind of bird have been interested in taking them to a poultry show. What makes a group of animals or birds a "breed" isn't what's written about them, or what organization "recognizes" them, it's whether they can reproduce themselves (their type) when paired with animals showing similar type.

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Having a vague idea in your head about what something should look like or how it should perform is not the same as starting out with a written standard and breeding animals toward it. Even Herr Dobermann didn't sit down and write out a standard before he started pulling dogs out of the local pound to use in his "project". First came puppies, then came more puppies, finally, puppies that looked similar without being directly related, and most importantly, were capable of producing puppies that looked like themselves. At that point, he had a breed, even if he was still only working from an idea in his head rather than a written standard.
 
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Here is some of my EE.

Wish he would have gotten up for this picture he is very leggy in my opinion but love his color. he is 6 months know.
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Pullet 2 months old all 3
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hen 8 months old lays light pastel blue eggs
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These are my newest EE and Ameraucana chicks. They look so much alike that I have to move the EE eggs to a separate bator for hatching so I can tell them apart. The EE's are Ameraucana/Cuckoo Marans hens x Splash Ameraucana roo.

Easter Egger chicks...
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Ameraucana chicks...
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Missed this post last month ~ too crazy around here with chicken-keeping!
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Anyway, I wanted to ask "loprettaerin" if you know what combination of chickens created the lighter pullet pictured in the 2nd set of photos (pics # 3 & 4)? I like that coloring a lot, and I'm planning to set some eggs this week to hatch some EEs....maybe I could hatch some from the same or similar combination...?? Thanks!
 
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I just found this thread, and wanted to say that this post is wonderfully accurate, very well written, and sums up the EE/mutt controversy perfectly. I'll also add the point that EEs were used to create the Ameraucana breed. I adore EEs; they are friendly, cold hardy, attractive to look at, and are excellent layers. I'm delighted to have EEs, and I'll always keep EEs in my flock.
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Actually, designating a group of animals as a breed does not rely on having a written standard, it only requires that the animals are able to consistently reproduce 'copies' of themselves. In fact, pretty much every breed of animal or bird known to man developed without a standard; I can't think of one where someone sat down and wrote a standard first and then started to breed toward it, can you?

I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species.

Well, yes, in a way - only without it being written. For instance, the doberman was created with a picture in mind; he knew what he wanted to breed for before he started creating the breed. He had a goal in mind, and bred for it. Standards don't have to be written before something is created.

I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species

So are you saying the breed American Gamefowl is not a "Real Chicken Breed" just because it isn't in the APA?
How about the Russian a Breed of chicken that once was in the APA but then removed?
There are a lot of breeds that are not in the APA for what ever reason it might be.

Thanks to hatcheries most EE's are just cross bred chickens NOW don't get me wrong I have some hatchery EE's and I do like them but lets call them what they are a cross bred fowl.
I have been to more than on Hatchery and seen what they call a "Easter Egger Breeding Pen" and I saw at least 5 other breeds other than a "EE".

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I just found this thread, and wanted to say that this post is wonderfully accurate, very well written, and sums up the EE/mutt controversy perfectly. I'll also add the point that EEs were used to create the Ameraucana breed. I adore EEs; they are friendly, cold hardy, attractive to look at, and are excellent layers. I'm delighted to have EEs, and I'll always keep EEs in my flock.
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X2 I just got 5 Ameraucana chicks and was wondering what was the difference! Thanks for this thread!
 
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I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species.

Well, yes, in a way - only without it being written. For instance, the doberman was created with a picture in mind; he knew what he wanted to breed for before he started creating the breed. He had a goal in mind, and bred for it. Standards don't have to be written before something is created.

I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species

So are you saying the breed American Gamefowl is not a "Real Chicken Breed" just because it isn't in the APA?
How about the Russian a Breed of chicken that once was in the APA but then removed?
There are a lot of breeds that are not in the APA for what ever reason it might be.

Thanks to hatcheries most EE's are just cross bred chickens NOW don't get me wrong I have some hatchery EE's and I do like them but lets call them what they are a cross bred fowl.
I have been to more than on Hatchery and seen what they call a "Easter Egger Breeding Pen" and I saw at least 5 other breeds other than a "EE". Chris​

Most hatcheries don't actually label their Easter Eggers as such and it seems odd that a hatchery would purposely keep 5 other breeds of chickens to their Easter Eggers, since that would reduce the chances of offspring producing colored eggs and having muffs/beards, etc. Were these real hatcheries (like McMurray or Meyer?) or just some private or local breeders? If so, which hatcheries were they? What other breeds were in there with the Easter Eggers?
 

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