different chicken owners--(RANT)

[onthespot]

If you want to pay shipping, you can have a beautiful young purebred copper black marans boy right now. He is too dark, his hackles are too light, his ear feathers are the wrong color, he is slow developing and not very heat tolerant. He would love to retire to a long life of luxury at your home, but only if you can provide a climate controlled environment to keep him in, as anything less would be cruel. Oh yes, an hens, he will require a dozen purebred copper black hens to make his life very happy, otherwise you will be breeding MUTTS!

Here is is... come and get him.

 

[Year of the Rooster]

I know what we could do! Let's get everybody here on BYC to go to a large area and purchase A LOT of land and just make one big coop and run!

and people could donate feed, pine shavings/hay, and/or money. That could solve all our rooster problems

Just Kidding

 

[onthespot]

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[chickfillhay]

You do know you'll get 90% Roosters right?

EH.....Let's just say...I'm connected!

I know people in need. Anyway If folks are going to cull for feather and egg color, I'm sure there would be a few females in the mix.

MissPrissy
Do you have a lot of space and grow out pens? Roosters do not live together like hens. They will fight. It will be bloody. It will at times be fatal if you leave them mixed in a jumble in the same pens.

I have at least 5 freerange acres and I just doubled the size of my holding pen which will be split in two to keep breeds separated. I also have a huge pole barn that hubby will be adding a pen to.

Either way I wouldn't allow these roos to mix directly with my (current) flock. I would give them a chance to blend in. (if they're little cockerels. But no matter what they have a place to go.​

 

[MissPrissy]

When do you cut off the number of roosters you will be willing to take on? 100 ? 200 ? What will you do with them as they live out their days?

How do you plan to house and feed unlimited numbers of roosters who provide nothing as their means of support for their natural lives that can be as long as 15 - 20 years in some cases.

5 acres and alot of mature roosters is a recipe for the county animal shelter and other animal protection agencies to pounce on you. I am afraid you have a lovely rose colored view of roosters and how they live. I don't mean to say that in an argumentative way. I think the idea is completely unrealistic based on my 20+ years of breeding and raising chickens.

200 rooster bachelor pens and the sound alone would have a county agency on your back in no time.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

First thing that comes to mind is: Why is this in the Raising Baby Chicks section?

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Mutt is the correct term.

also people who cull because its not pure blood or the colors wrong or whatever. whats wrong with letting it live its not the chicks fault that it was born that way, and who are we to judge wether they live or die because of the breeding, if this is a major problem separate your hens and roo.

Welcome to the world of poultry genetics. We are dealing with livestock..

i have had pure bloods and mixed both and they were fine and actually the mutts as you call them were better than the pure bloods.

It is a well known fact on this board that mutts outperform purebreds. I raise purebreds for their history.

if you have a chick that has a medical problem then thats fine, but if you can fix it, FIX IT, don't kill just because.

If you always just "fix" the problem, then the genetics continue to circulate. Thus creating more problems.

if you have a abundance of roos try to sell or give away or whatever but don't kill them.

Um, I eat my extra roosters. I also prefer the birds I eat to be dead. To be dead someone has to kill 'em.

people need to take responsibilites for what they do and stop taking out on the chicks--

Who are you to tell us what is responsible and not?

in order to get the perfect bird. some breeds have health issues etc because people want something in particular dont figure in the consquenses of thier actions. alot of inbreeding and such make these breeds voulrable to particular health issues.

Nobody purposely breeds for health problems. That is the reason we cull and kill, to eliminate these problems from the genetic pool.

people need to start re thinking on what they are doing before new lives are brought into this world and ultimatly dying because "we" couldn't get it right.

They die in the end regardless. It is a part of life. Welcome to the cold reality.

I suggest like the others that you start doing some research. We all do what we think is best for our birds. We all practice responsible ownership. Criticizing and telling how they should raise the birds they've raised for years, is not the best way to make friends.

-Kim​

 

[Wolf-Kim]

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EH.....Let's just say...I'm connected!

I know people in need. Anyway If folks are going to cull for feather and egg color, I'm sure there would be a few females in the mix.

MissPrissy
Do you have a lot of space and grow out pens? Roosters do not live together like hens. They will fight. It will be bloody. It will at times be fatal if you leave them mixed in a jumble in the same pens.

I have at least 5 freerange acres and I just doubled the size of my holding pen which will be split in two to keep breeds separated. I also have a huge pole barn that hubby will be adding a pen to.

Either way I wouldn't allow these roos to mix directly with my (current) flock. I would give them a chance to blend in. (if they're little cockerels. But no matter what they have a place to go.​

Chickfillhay, you are crazy. LOL

Nobody is going to send you any hens, unless they are done laying. If hens are the wrong color, most people sell them for $15-20 at a local auction as laying hens. Silly.

You'll get 100% roosters and burnt out hens. No eggs, but a ton of testerone for you.

-Kim

 

[Yanna]

Terminology is one of those things that people can get very divided about - doesn't make much sense to me. A chicken's dignity isn't affronted by what we call it - only our human idea about the chicken's dignity.

Yep, we are all chicken keepers for different reasons.

I'm new to this but when my current pullets are no longer laying so well, I plan to make some nice healthy chicken stock to keep in the freezer. We also have "pet" bantams (all 2 of them) but for me this is chiefly about providing humanely raised eggs and meat for my household and becoming more responsible and self sufficient.

As for culling based on breed conformity or egg laying, well - folks have that right. If they want to give their birds away or make chicken 'n' dumplings, that's really up to them. As long as the birds are treated humanely, that's no one's business but their own.

And what was said earlier about the MANY male chicks that are killed by large hatcheries is so very true. We DO have the power of life and death over the animals we care for - that's a fact of life and it's also an important ethical responsibility.

Maybe trust others to make wise decisions about the animals that THEY are responsible for. Believing the best about people is usually the higher way (and easier said than done) - it sure gives more peace of mind than believing that one can/should "save the world" from itself. Most of us have some things in our lives to improve - doesn't leave much time for pecking at others, frankly.

Just my thoughts!

 

[chickfillhay]

Chickfillhay, you are crazy. LOL
Nobody is going to send you any hens, unless they are done laying. If hens are the wrong color, most people sell them for $15-20 at a local auction as laying hens. Silly.
You'll get 100% roosters and burnt out hens. No eggs, but a ton of testerone for you.

UM....Have you seen my avatar? That's me!

Besides, I believe you give some love you get some love!

 

[Wolf-Kim]

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UM....Have you seen my avatar? That's me!

Besides, I believe you give some love you get some love!

LOL
I figured that was you in you're avatar.

-Kim