Dixie Chicks

[vehve]

Well, had to put down a chicken today, one of the pullets had been looking a bit under the weather for a while, but today it's left leg was completely paralyzed. We're thinking Marek's. That would explain the earlier bird that passed as well. Klaara seems to be the only one of the three pullets that's managed to develop a resistance, as she's active as ever.

 

[Razadia]

having control over our food is what most of us are here for.

Veal is just wrong. I have known about it for 45 years... I used to ride my horse past a dairy on the way out to the trail... all those sheds with a calf each... a by product of the dairy industry. They dont even get to be with momma past that first colostrom nurse.

for years tsk tsk tsked over it all... Then I realized... I drink milk and eat cheese.

so I am a hypocrite.

deb

I drink milk and eat dairy like there's an endless free supply... I'm a hypocrit too. Fairly normal human traight, lol.
I grow more every year though, veggies and meat and eggs. One day maybe dairy. I like knowing my food.

I eat cheese, but I don't drink milk. Stuff makes my stomach hurt. I'm wondering if raw cow or goat milk will be any different. I've been looking into what can cause 'lactose intolerance' and I'm thinking it may just be the pasteurization that's messing me up since it messes with the proteins in milk. I can eat cheese, yogurt, and other dairy products don't bother me. Just milk.

Well, had to put down a chicken today, one of the pullets had been looking a bit under the weather for a while, but today it's left leg was completely paralyzed. We're thinking Marek's. That would explain the earlier bird that passed as well. Klaara seems to be the only one of the three pullets that's managed to develop a resistance, as she's active as ever.

I hope it's not. Never dealt with it myself, but I've heard some horror stories.

 

[vehve]

Raz, can you find unhomogenized milk? To my understanding, that's the process that mainly messes with the proteins, and some people don't get symptoms drinking it.

Marek would kinda be a bummer, but I wouldn't be surprised if we had it. Breeding for resistance should work though.

 

[LocalYokel]

I eat cheese, but I don't drink milk. Stuff makes my stomach hurt. I'm wondering if raw cow or goat milk will be any different. I've been looking into what can cause 'lactose intolerance' and I'm thinking it may just be the pasteurization that's messing me up since it messes with the proteins in milk. I can eat cheese, yogurt, and other dairy products don't bother me. Just milk.

I hope it's not. Never dealt with it myself, but I've heard some horror stories.

The raw cow milk lots of folks can drink that have problems with store bought milks.
Raw goats milk is even better, simpler protiens break down quicker,not nearly as difficult to digest.

Happy Birthday Raz!!!!
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[Beer can]

I don't think I've ever even tasted raw milk. Just haven't been around cows. And when raw milk is sold commercially it starts getting a bit iffy in my opinion. But if I had a farm next door, it would be nice to get the milk straight from there.

I don't think just plain veal is that bad, it's the ones brought up only on milk that I find most cruel.

Foie gras is really cruel too, but I have to admit, it is pretty delicious.

Working at a dairy plant I always wanted to try the raw milk, fresh on the trucks you open the lids to sample/vent smells sooo sweet when you have 70,000 pounds, over 8,000 gallons under your nose....
Our milk before we pump it I personally check it in the lab for bacteria and antibiotics, It's good milk.
I don't think I'll ever try drinking it again, remember those sugar free gummi bear reviews you posted a link to? that raw milk did the same to me.....it was bad very bad for days....Truck drivers that drink the stuff daily laughed, said there was nothing wrong with the milk just my system wasn't used to it, not taking any chances again.

I don't have a problem with eating veal, just how they are raised. About 15 yrs ago we were working a bluestone quarry on a dairy farm. Milk prices were super low, farmers losing big time. The farmer mentioned it cost him more to send calves to auction than they were worth, he was getting $5 ea.
I offered to buy some to eat, he said it wasn't worth spending the $ on milk replacer and feed to get them to size.
I told him I was going to just throw them on the grill like a suckling pig, gotta have more than $5 worth of meat on them as is. I didn't try it though.
Milk prices are good now, farmers getting big $ for calves. The boom in Greek yogurt has helped a lot and we have two of the first to get into it and biggest in the US Chobani and Fage in my state.

I'd like to try foie gras someday, I know it's wrong but I'd try it. Heck I'd even try shark fin soup if given the opportunity

. Only way I'd try that though is if it came from sharks that they actually ate the shark also, maybe I'll catch one myself someday.

 

[vehve]

I've tried shark meat once, it wasn't a pleasant experience. Sort of had a urine like taste.

 

[LocalYokel]

I've tried shark meat once, it wasn't a pleasant experience. Sort of had a urine like taste.

They dont have a urinary tract like we do.
It gets excreted through the skin....

I bleeds mine as soon as I catch them, never have any problems with taste that way.
Cut them right behind/on top of the head, they bleed out quick. Throw on ice immediately.

If they just stink like ammonia when I pull em up , I throw em back. Prolly would taste off. Just my 2 cents
Edited cause of my darn phone and autocorrect

 

[LocalYokel]

They dont have a urinary tract like we do.
It gets excreted through the skin....

I bleeds mine as soon as I catch them, never have any problems with taste that way.
Cut them right behind/on top of the head, they bleed out quick. Throw on ice immediately.

If they just stink like ammonia when I pull em up , I throw em back. Prolly would taste off. Just my 2 cents
Edited cause of my darn phone and autocorrect

I should add that I gut and skin them right there as well
Free chums

 

[vehve]

Yeah, I think that would probably help. This one was bought whole, so it had been marinating in it's own peepee for god knows how long. The fins probably don't get as much exposure though, as they sit further from the rest of the body.

 

[LocalYokel]

Yeah, I think that would probably help. This one was bought whole, so it had been marinating in it's own peepee for god knows how long. The fins probably don't get as much exposure though, as they sit further from the rest of the body.

True
I cut mine off for skinning purposes