DIY HUMANE way to Kill Slaughter Chicken (Stun-kill, Gas)

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Wow, all I'm doing is presenting a different option and so many nasty pretentious replies. I've decapitated, throat slit, neck broke birds, and it's all stressful. I have no problems killing, I hunt, fish, and process all my own meat. Ive raised and killed cows, birds, and pigs. i dont just read, I live on a working farm. Really having a conversation with some of you is similar to having a conversation with an animal rights activist, you're not open to discussing anyone's thoughts or opinions objectively, only your opinion is right, and others are wrong. Interesting to say the least.
 
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To whom?

Maybe you are just not aware of the treatment we get around here for even killing our own chickens. We are just defending the right to do it as we wish without someone claiming that it's inhumane. We know where that all goes...and it starts with folks who work closely with animal welfare organizations.

Due to folks that hold these opinions, we have trouble keeping our dogs outdoors where they belong, killing our own livestock on our own place without being reported by someone who feels it is "inhumane" to do so.

We are fighting for a way of life that is becoming quickly regulated by people who feel that farming is now their business, though very few of them have ever farmed or even stepped foot on a farm. The backyard flocks and small farms are the last bastions of freedom in producing one's own food without some bleeding heart person trying to regulate how we do it.

Yes, we have strong opinions because we are taking a stand for something. I know that's unusual nowadays...activists for animal welfare seem to have it all their way and aren't used to anyone trying to stand up for their rights to farm.

We really don't care what you do at your place to make something dead, but we also don't like the inferences that our way is less humane...as in "less evolved" than the ways you are proposing.
 
All I did was put an option on the table backed by scientific research. It was never implied that you should not slaughter your own chickens in the manner they want. I think that more people should be self-sufficient. Trust me I know all about being regulated. And I know about people trying to take your rights away. I deal with people all the time who are opposed to my career choice. I deal with animal rights people all of the time. Nothing I said was meant to take away from traditional methods of slaughter. It was merely another option for slaughtering chickens. Yes I think it's less stressful for the birds than other methods. But that in no way means others cant do what method they are comfortable with. It perplexes me that information offends people.
 
One word: Impractical. We have been inundated at times with suggestions that are nothing short of silly when you think of it. All sorts of elaborate setups to do what a person with a sharp knife does every day simply, easily, and quickly. I ended the life of an unwanted rooster the other day. You hear about all the flapping and so on that goes on once the bird is dead. I assured this guy that he'd feel a bit of pain then he'd go to sleep and it would be ok. I held him, made the cut and held his head to let the blood run. He gave one convulsive twitch once a good amount of blood had been drained out. That was it. Stressful? Really?
 
The biggest problem with CO2 stunning is that its difficult to implement at home in a way that is not overly stressful to the animal. CO2 stunning is commonly used and has totally modernized humane hog slaughter- the biggest push was the reduction in damage to the carcass since pigs are prone to violent flailing with mechanical/captive bolt killing/stunning methods. The concern for home use is that the CO2 concentration has to be gradually increased so that unconsciousness is achieved before the levels are high enough to cause irritation. In a packing plant, this is achieved by using a conveyer belt to gradually lower the hogs into a CO2 pit. The animal is then subsequently bled out- so it is very possible to achieve an excellent bleed using gas stunning methods.

I have been using the throat slit method. I use a new scalpel blade per 5 birds, and I'm very confident with my anatomy and depth of cut. I think they are conscious for WAYYYYYY too long by demonstration of a righting reflex and facial/eye reflexes. I know it seems to work well for some people, but not for me- so I'm investigating alternatives this time around. I have also tried braining/pithing- the few times I got the scalpel perfectly placed it was pretty awesome, but for me I'm having too much margin of error to continue with that method.

So apparently in Europe, and maybe Canada, there appears to be a commercially available captive bolt gun for poultry. Its a hand held unit, and basically the bird is restrained in a cone, you hold onto the beak and hold the muzzle against the skull and deploy. It was marketed towards mobile, small processors. ( I think it was called the Zephyr). I can't find it for sale in the US or even get a price on it. Has anyone heard of or used it before?
 
LoneStarHen said:
All I did was put an option on the table backed by scientific research. It was never implied that you should not slaughter your own chickens in the manner they want. I think that more people should be self-sufficient. Trust me I know all about being regulated. And I know about people trying to take your rights away. I deal with people all the time who are opposed to my career choice. I deal with animal rights people all of the time. Nothing I said was meant to take away from traditional methods of slaughter. It was merely another option for slaughtering chickens. Yes I think it's less stressful for the birds than other methods. But that in no way means others cant do what method they are comfortable with. It perplexes me that information offends people.
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I know that by now you probably feel stalked here to a degree but I want to clue you in on something. "Backed by scientific research" isn't as respected a term as you might imagine. Scientific Research has proved quite a bit over the years. And an awful lot of it has proven to be flawed and just plain untrue. "Natural animal fats are bad for you! You should eat Margarine and Crisco!" is only the tip of the iceberg. "There is no difference between homogenized milk and raw milk for the consumer" is another. "Science" often throws out very pertinent points as worthless and develops the wrong conclusion. One day I believe this whole "Man is causing the climate change" thing to be proven wrong as well. The evidence that this world's climate has changed often and drastically without people even being on it is overwhelming.
 
SmokinChick said:
Another bunking of science!

ACV cures everything for you and your chickens.

Sorry thats not science, thats folklore.
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Yes, it is. Mostly. That's something we can try out and harms nothing. If we think it works, then fine. And if not, at least we're not told that we're stupid for not using it because it's backed by Science. Instead, we get told we're stupid when we do think it works. LOL. At least nothing is harmed in the trying.
 

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