Do feed bags make climate change?

[Altairsky]

As others said, make your own food. You worry about plastic but what is causing global warming is the industries themselves. Chicken feed, pellets and crumbles, is industrial, processed food. That causes global warming. Production and transportation of industrial products cause pollution. If you care this much about the environment, buy loose seeds, locally farmed, at the local mill and make your own food. It's the most ecological way to feed chickens.
Discussing and complaining won't help the planet if people are unwilling to take actions.
Adding: there is no "green" way to make industrial products. Industries that claim so are liars. The only way to help the planet is to only buy local food in local farms. And avoid processed food, big companies, and big grocery stores like the plague. By bypassing all the industrial processes and the following transportation to the grocery stores we would cut most pollution and co2 emissions.

 

[Kiki]

@Kiki do you have any links for polypropylene production and if they make climate change for me to read? Ai is okay to use too if it helps you write your response.

Also, how do I get a BYC Friend badge? I see you have one. What did you have to do to get that? I am friendly.

1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214785321075969

2. https://www.chemanalyst.com/industry-report/india-polypropylene-market-78

3. https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/polypropylene-environmental-impact

Badges:
Someone has to first nominate you for it.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/byc-recognition-medals.1214207/post-19362818

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

3. https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/polypropylene-environmental-impact

Hello Is it just me or is this not good. By 2030 polypropylene increases something about 45% from 2 years ago?

One thing that is weird to me is that polypropylene in a landfill decomposition time can vary from 20 years to 500 years. Did they do a study of polypropylene decomposition to extrapolate this theory of 500 years, but a different landfill environment decomposed it in just 20 years?

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

And it was you that said

"I think being smart enough to adhere to safety procedures to not get themselves injured in that kind of job would translate easily to a different more planet friendly job."

That's what I said. A wish of transfer of jobs. I never said I wish them jobless. Please do not twist my words, that is deception and cruel.

but it's not the bags the feed comes in that pollutes the planet

Here is a quote from a link that @Kiki gave me

"The manufacturing process of polypropylene has high impacts on global warming potential, fossil resource depletion, human toxicity, acidification, and petrochemical oxidant formation."

https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/polypropylene-environmental-impact

I think that the production does pollute the planet.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

As others said, make your own food

I like the idea of that, and thanks to @Perris, the idea that it is possible is giving hope to all those that are discouraged by proponents of commercial feed.

It's the most ecological way to feed chickens.

I am developing my own system as we speak.

Discussing and complaining won't help the planet if people are unwilling to take actions.

I think, without a doubt, that if a method of feeding chickens animal protein first and then letting them eat vitamins from plentiful plants freely was developed it would convince all but the most staunch supporters (even some are here) that "nutritionally complete balanced commercial feed" was a big farce of the last half century.

 

[Altairsky]

Did they do a study of polypropylene decomposition to extrapolate this theory of 500 years, but a different landfill environment decomposed it in just 20 years?

Many bacteria and some species of beetle larvae can eat and fully digest plastic. In all environments where these plastic eating species are common, plastic can be decomposed in less than 20 years. In environments without these species like deserts and glacial areas it will take a lot longer.

 

[Altairsky]

if a method of feeding chickens animal protein first and then letting them eat vitamins from plentiful plants freely was developed it would convince all but the most staunch supporters (even some are here) that "nutritionally complete balanced commercial feed" was a big farce of the last half century.

I always fed my birds seeds from my local mill. They were healthy and produced big eggs with thick shells, orange yolk and firm white. Then I joined this forum and I was told that I should buy industrial feed or my chickens would get sick if they ate just scratch. So I purchased a bag of industrial feed (a paper bag). After 3 months my hens started laying eggs with watery white, pale yolk and a shell so thin that it would crack when boiled. Overall they tasted like the eggs from the grocery store. I immediately went back to their usual seeds and I will never buy industrial feed again. After all, I never eat industrial food myself (both for ecological and health reasons) so if ultra-processed food is proved to be bad for humans it make no sense to think it's good for animals.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

I always fed my birds seeds from my local mill. They were healthy and produced big eggs with thick shells, orange yolk and firm white. Then I joined this forum and I was told that I should buy industrial feed or my chickens would get sick if they ate just scratch. So I purchased a bag of industrial feed (a paper bag). After 3 months my hens started laying eggs with watery white, pale yolk and a shell so thin that it would crack when boiled. Overall they tasted like the eggs from the grocery store. I immediately went back to their usual seeds and I will never buy industrial feed again. After all, I never eat industrial food myself (both for ecological and health reasons) so if ultra-processed food is proved to be bad for humans it make no sense to think it's good for animals.

Hello I have seen what you mean. There are some that say industrial feed is the only way for you chickens to be healthy. If it were a conspiracy theory, I would say they are getting paid. That, or they are just tricked by the commercial feed industry. It makes me think they don't realize that chickens in todays form and function were alive and well before they were even born and were eating and laying just fine without commercial bagged feed. But no matter what you say, it won't be accepted.

I say live and let live. And also, grow your own feed.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

Many bacteria and some species of beetle larvae can eat and fully digest plastic. In all environments where these plastic eating species are common, plastic can be decomposed in less than 20 years. In environments without these species like deserts and glacial areas it will take a lot longer.

Hello I read something about worms eating radioactive material and remedying it at one of the places where a nuclear reactor blew up or something in another country. Worms are amazing.

 

[Loving my girls]

As others said, make your own food. You worry about plastic but what is causing global warming is the industries themselves. Chicken feed, pellets and crumbles, is industrial, processed food. That causes global warming. Production and transportation of industrial products cause pollution. If you care this much about the environment, buy loose seeds, locally farmed, at the local mill and make your own food. It's the most ecological way to feed chickens.
Discussing and complaining won't help the planet if people are unwilling to take actions.
Adding: there is no "green" way to make industrial products. Industries that claim so are liars. The only way to help the planet is to only buy local food in local farms. And avoid processed food, big companies, and big grocery stores like the plague. By bypassing all the industrial processes and the following transportation to the grocery stores we would cut most pollution and co2 emissions.

The food I buy is locally produced (not sure what means, lot et Garonne ? France ? Europe ?) anyway it’s packed in some sort of paper sack with cotton stitching across the top.
Off point a bit (actually quite a lot) our wood pellets are packed in second/third hand plastic (boo) sacks which are retuned when placing the next order giving us a reduction.