Do you keep a dog you can't trust with your kid?

[fowl farm]

If you can't trust a dog with your kids, give him to someone without kids. You should ALWAYS put your kids before you animals. But, from what I read, it was an accident.

 

[FireTigeris]

*shrug* You posted something 'you knew you would get feedback on'
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If the Russel is on a leash until the child and dog learn manners much can be avoided and find that trainer quick, be sure they are well versed at that breed.

Call breed rescues and ask who does their training and temperament testing.

Ask the humane society or Animal Care and control who they refer Jack Russells to.

I like positive reinforcement (I use praise rewards, physical rewards and for behaviors I NEED 100% I use treats randomly), (I use verbal corrections and leash corrections) and I don't think dogs think we are ugly two legged dogs, but that is an opinion, YMMV.

 

[Blondiechic]

My goodness some of you are so melodramatic! Moving if your neighbours had a snake? That is a silky comment. As for breeds and biting, mates terrier are the highest biters over here but people ignore that because they are small and fluffy.
As for the child's face being bitten with the dog in the car, I wonder why the child was that close to a strange dog in the car? I have three dogs, two Belgium and one large staff and have lost count of the times morons come over to 'pat' them or send children over. People need to educate children that animals can peck, scratch and bite and are not stuffed toys to play with without respect.
As for the case in hand, get training and when strange children visit put your dog somewhere he is happy and won't be bothered by the kids. He had made great progress and it would be a shame to kill him...maybe ask Caesar Milan for advice...he is all the rage over here!
Good luck!

 

[FireTigeris]

Well been doing research, apparently 'nearly 80%' of -lethal- dog attacks happen w/o the master home in the yard or home of the dog. ( "A dog in its own yard, and no master present. In 2008, 78% of the human fatalities were by dogs in their own yard." )

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Apparently the same site did not happen to tabulate accidents and bites that were not fatal (that is where they happen most often).[/FONT]

 

[Stephanie739]

My goodness some of you are so melodramatic! Moving if your neighbours had a snake? That is a silky comment. As for breeds and biting, mates terrier are the highest biters over here but people ignore that because they are small and fluffy.
As for the child's face being bitten with the dog in the car, I wonder why the child was that close to a strange dog in the car? I have three dogs, two Belgium and one large staff and have lost count of the times morons come over to 'pat' them or send children over. People need to educate children that animals can peck, scratch and bite and are not stuffed toys to play with without respect.
As for the case in hand, get training and when strange children visit put your dog somewhere he is happy and won't be bothered by the kids. He had made great progress and it would be a shame to kill him...maybe ask Caesar Milan for advice...he is all the rage over here!
Good luck!

I was just making clear my position on property rights vs legislation...(re moving) As far as the dog in the car, the child knew the dog; it was his neighbor's dog that attacked his face and nearly tore off his lip.

 

[Stephanie739]

*shrug* You posted something 'you knew you would get feedback on'

If the Russel is on a leash until the child and dog learn manners much can be avoided and find that trainer quick, be sure they are well versed at that breed.

Call breed rescues and ask who does their training and temperament testing.

Ask the humane society or Animal Care and control who they refer Jack Russells to.

I like positive reinforcement (I use praise rewards, physical rewards and for behaviors I NEED 100% I use treats randomly), (I use verbal corrections and leash corrections) and I don't think dogs think we are ugly two legged dogs, but that is an opinion, YMMV.

I didn't want to argue and I do hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings or offend anyone. I just get frustrated with the amount of people who do get pits and don't know how to care for them. Its different with rats, not like they will hurt anyone!

 

[dainerra]

the point that firetigeris and I are trying to make is that the danger isn't from pits - it's from clueless owners and can happen with any dog. There was recently a baby killed by a pomeranian because the baby was left alone with the dog.
Pits are in the news more often because they are "the dog of the day" for idiots and thugs. Before that, it was the rottie, the dobe, and the GSD. That popularity means that more of them are bred by idiots, more are owned by idiots, and there are just more OF them.

There is a survey that I will have to find that groups dog attacks not only by breed, but also by situation. The largest portion of attacks were centered 1) on children 2) chained dogs and 3) low income areas. It was generally a combination of all 3 factors.

http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2011/01/dog-bite-fatalites-2010-final-report.html

statistically, you're much more likely to be killed by your neighbor than his dog.

 

[zazouse]

I know this is hard for you, we get so attached to our furry friends

This dog is hyper and impulsive not her fault, could be breeding or her early treatment as a pup or both, either way she can never be fully trusted.

That type of dog she is can live up to 17 years in some cases and you will always have this issue before you can you deal with that threat that long ?
In the end it is your decision, i would not take the dog to the shelter, IMO if you want to do the right thing for the dog and its new owner they should know exactly whats going on with the dog and decide if they are capable of maintaining it in a manner that is safe for it and all involved, a shelter only has the info you give them at the time, they have not dealt with the months of behavior you have and i do not see how they could responsible place your girl and feel she would end up at a kill shelter in the end.

There are so many good dogs out there that need homes that have no issues at all and deserve the love you have to give them, you girl deserves the same but now you can't give to her any longer and that is unfair to her. i wish you well in your decision

do you have a photo of her? would love to see what the cross looks like

 

[plc]

My husband and I had a beagle/jack russell for 9 years before our son was born.
I think he may have bumped into her in his walker, she bit him on the arm-not breaking the skin.
We tried re-homing, the guy returned her. It took some time, but we eventually had her put down. It was such a terribly hard time, but I felt I owed it to our son to keep him safe-no matter what.
Tough thing to do, but as parents, it is always tough

I wish you the best.

Hugz

 

[Tiki108]

Personally I don't trust any dogs alone with children, too many cases of dogs that were great for years snapping one day. There was a case just last year of a couple day old baby that was left alone with the trusted family pom for only 5 minutes, the uncle who was home at the time just went to get the bottle, came back and the dog was attacking the baby and sadly killed the child. I trust my dogs with my life, but it's not worth the risk of leaving them alone with very young children unattended. That's just my opinion though, I work with many exotic animals and one thing I preach when I've lobbied against exotic animal bans is that while some animals are called domestic they can be just as dangerous if not more dangerous in some cases.