Do you think it was a fluke that this bird won......

your little girl is adorable! I have no children of my own but have mentored many children at Hunter Paces and out foxhunting. Sometimes you walk the whole time and if you get around with no one crying it is a good day. These boys and girls learn to walk before they can run and hopefully as adults they continue on as lovers of (whatever) sport they learned to love as children. Nothing is more rewarding then seeing those smiles.
And from personal experience I have to say that I have had two hatchery birds in the past that won at the "real" shows and the really big ones.
Your girls are both beautiful They will never forget their 4H experiences. Congrats.
 
Thanks everyone! I'm glad your honest. I'm looking for "real" show birds now. Not just the ones I think are pretty!
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go to shows * not county fair shows * for a real eye opener
it was hard for me too but at the end i wanted the best so that I could show my self.
 
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And that is all that is important! We all had to start somewhere. Having a good time, along with the win will fuel her passion and she will learn as she goes!

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A frizzle (frizzled cochin) would not carry five toes or silkie blood. If the bird came from someone trying to breed sizzles, then yes, there would be silkie. Frizzled cochins are a very well established variety that look exactly like a cochin except for the frizzled feathering. I wouldn't know this if it weren't for the fact that Sheryl Butler, a bantam cochin breeder and breeder of champion frizzles, is a friend of mine. Through exposure to her birds and those of Joe Mazur I know a bit more about frizzles than I know about other breeds I don't own.
 
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Frizzle is not a breed (in the US). It is a variety that is recognised for ALL breeds and all recognised colour varieties by both the APA and ABA. So, a frizzled birchen modern game would be recognised, whereas a frizzled Rhode Island self-blue would be AOV.

So you CAN show frizzles in an APA show? Do you just enter them as the breed and color that they would be if they werent frizzled? I would like to show my frizzles if I can. I didnt see the word frizzle on the list of breeds and varieties though, so I didnt know if they were even allowed. I dont think I have ever even seen any at our local show every year either.

Yes, you can enter a frizzle in any breed. List it under "variety," for example: "fizzled blue" or "frizzled golden laced" or " frizzled partridge" or ...
 
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go to shows * not county fair shows * for a real eye opener
it was hard for me too but at the end i wanted the best so that I could show my self.

Disagree. I think here even our County fair is judged by an APA cert. Judge. To the OP. Just look for shows that have a judge that is APA cetr.
 
Also, I dont see frizzles on the APA list of recognized breeds and varieties, so it may not even be showable in an APA sanctioned show, unless they have an "all others" class that includes frizzles. Although I have frizzles, I have never tried to show them, so I do not know if they have a special little class for them. I love frizzles, and yours is way more handsome than mine is! Beautiful bird!

From page 38 of the 2010 edition of the APA Standard:

"Frizzles have been in the Standard since 1874........Frizzles may be shown in any breed and variety set forth in this Standard of Perfection,"​
 
I know a chicken breeder that judges at county fairs and he doesn't know the first thing about judging a show...heck....he doesn't even know all the breeds and varieties. I would just ask if the judge is a licensed APA judge and then go from there. If you want to branch out into the larger shows I suggest going to one to look around before entering a bird. I was shocked the first time I went. The RIRs I had as a kid look nothing like the show lines.
 

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