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[Mojo Chick'n]

Oops - BYC double posted me.

but since I'm here, I'll add that one reason that Prince Albert tobacco is cheaper than others is because on the label you will see it called "smoking tobacco" instead of "Cigarette tobacco" and that is the one detail which bypasses the major taxes on cigarettes. It is still taxed, but it is taxed as pipe tobacco, and not Cig tobacco (different rates).

also, I have been told (by a fireman - not sure if he knew the truth of it or not) that the fire deterrant in the cigs, now, is a starch in the paper that stops it from burning - it is not in the tobacco itself, supposedly. It does make them taste different (but the tubes for roll your own do not have the starch in them

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meri

 

[beak]

I support sin taxes. Cigarettes yes, Alcohol , double yes, Unhealthy fast food. yes. junk food yes, anything with corn syrup yes.

I also strongly agree with taxing porn. Legalize and tax the heck out of prostitution. Legalize and tax certain drugs. Holland does this on both counts and has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

To address the thread. Yes they do. Helpd keep people from burning themselves up in bed too.

 

[joebryant]

Mojo Chick'n :

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I smoke "RYO" and I use Prince Albert Smoking Tobacco. Most folks think PA is Pipe Tobacco, but it is great stuff for smoking in cigarettes, also. It is a lot "cleaner" tasting (if that can apply to smoking

) and like you said, it's like store bought to fresh eggs difference. Plus, it costs me maybe 12 bucks a carton this way and it only takes 5 minutes to roll a pack of smoke.

Of course, living in KY, we are in the middle of some tobacco farms. Hubby wants to try growing a small patch, just to see how it tastes compared to the chemically enhanced stuff. I do have to say though, that Tobacco is the prettiest crop in the fields, and hanging in the barns to dry and cure.

I commend those folks who don't smoke, or who are trying to quit - it isn't easy to do and I wish those who are quitting all the luck in the world.

meri

I remember those fields in Kentucky, acres and acres, that I worked in when I was a kid before the tobacco bases came into being. I also remember picking off tobacco worms from the leaves, stripping the leaves after hanging the plants in the tobacco barns. I also remember the years transporting it to Louisville and not getting enough for it to pay for the transportation costs.
It shore was purty though.​

 

[DuckLady]

Back on topic.......
When the transition started in Oregon last fall, there was concern about this. A lot of people where I worked would specifically request the older cigs.

And by the deadline, if you had even one pack of the older cigs on the shelf it was a $1000 fine per pack. ($10k per carton). So we were not even able to give customers the option of which to buy after the deadline.

I see the point for the safety, but I also see the frustration and concern over making something that is already not healthy even more unhealthy.

 

[silkiechicken]

It's a double edge sword. As for brush fires due to tossed cigs from windows... put one out a few weeks ago in Washington before it made it to the grassy field. A tiny cig and a 3 foot charred ring in the bark, about 1 foot away from the dry grass on the side of the road. Luckily a business near by had a bucket I could borrow.

 

[vfem]

They added a new chemical to the paper (its not good for you and it makes some of us SICK to our tummies) so that in the case you 'fall asleep' with that smoke it goes out and doesn't set your house on fire!


The government made it manditory on a state to state bases.

P.s. - I quit smoking 12 weeks ago... smokers no longer have any rights and I'm just tired of it. They win... I quit!

 

[cockadoodle]

The problem with sin taxes is that good causes (schools, health care, etc) become financially dependent on people continuing to smoke, gamble, drink, etc... ok so maybe that in itself isn't terrible. However, every 10cents a pack increase causes x amount of people to quit. Revenues from the sin tax go down, the schools suffer. The state figures they don't have to pay as much into the schools or healthcare because the sin tax is covering it. As people quit, the schools continue to go downhill. Overall, I just have an issue with the state saying no, you shouldn't smoke... but at the same time, making themselves dependent on those same people to pay their bills. Either the state is against it, or for it, but they want it both ways. When an individual does that, they are labeled a hypocrite, as in my opinion are the states that levy sin taxes.


Edited to add -
at least I know now why my wife can't seem to keep her cigarette lit

Add one more to the 4000+ chemicals already present.

 

[Davaroo]

I don't have a problem with the new smokes... I didn't know there was one.

When I want a smoke, I get a few cigars and have a go. Otherwise, I don't smoke.

I do feel for smokers, though. If ever there was anyone who wore their frailties on their sleeve, its smokers. Its hard to be 'holier than thou' and be a smoker, when your very weakness lies exposed.

However, I do feel put upon buy those who lure people to their posts with leading titles like...
"Does any one beside me have a problem with the new ...."

 

[joebryant]

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Well said.

 

[vfem]

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Techincally it is only in 45 states or something like that!? NC and SC are yet to adapt to these smokes yet.

WHo knows!?