Does any one beside me have a problem with the new ..

[Marlinchaser]

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Well said.

My PROBLEM with the sin taxes is most do not go to schools or medical but to special interests, such as Stadium/Areana's for professional sport teams.

 

[beak]

But that has the side effect of lowering health costs. Schools will need to understand that it will go down over a period of time. Either that or they could increase the percentage to compensate. Eventually people will give it up.

 

[debilorrah]

I live near San Bernardino National Forest and the San Gabriel Mountains and I smoke. I am SOOOO glad they started making them like that!!!!! I feel a bit safer.

 

[ShaggysGirl]

I smoked for over 20 years and quit about 6 years ago. That was one of the hardest thing I ever did. I was into parrots and promised my self a $500 sun conure if I stopped. It took the patch and a bag of dumdum suckers. They could of just sold me the sticks as I chewed the heck out of them

 

[Davaroo]

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Techincally it is only in 45 states or something like that!? NC and SC are yet to adapt to these smokes yet.

WHo knows!?

Ahhh, I get it. Make the cigarette so it doesn't burn. Do this in gradual stages and the smokers will, by default, become suckers instead of smokers.
Clever little conspiracy, wot?

 

[Davaroo]

My PROBLEM with the sin taxes is most do not go to schools or medical but to special interests, such as Stadium/Areana's for professional sport teams.

My problem is with the notion that taxes are normal and that we must pay them on everything - sin or not.

When did that happen?​

 

[cockadoodle]

I think If I'm remembering correctly, the first taxes americans had to pay were to fund a war that would protect our freedoms. Now they are being used to penalize those that choose to exercise them. A lot of people are cool with that because they'll just say, hey if you don't like it, don't smoke... not the point. Financially penalizing those that choose to exercise their freedoms is becoming all to frequent and ok for a lot of people. Maybe they will put a sin tax on chicken feed next because their are unfortunately a lot of people out there that would like to see back yard flocks vanish... what better way to do it than to tax that too? Already are with all the permit fees, inspections and un-necessary costs we already put up with. It's almost enough to make a person want a drink and a cigarette... probably going off topic a bit, but frankly based on the subject of this thread there's a lot of room for tangents

I also have a problem with smokes that don't stay lit.

 

[beak]

I think what happened is that when our country was first founded it was strictly agricultural. There was no need for roads and sewer systems and electrical grids and manufacturing plants and first responders. Every body was pretty much self sufficient. If they needed something they bartered for it. If something started on fire they put it out. Those days have been gone for a little while.

That system doesn't work anymore. Taxes are required to pay for necessary services. Unfortunately we have a political system that is based on corruption. So we have no bid contracts and earmarks on every single bill that gets passed. Until you get rid of our current government to include every politician in the country and change the rules there will always be massive taxes and bad spending.

People have a fit when anybody talks about raising sales tax or income tax. So the choice is to let the infrastructure crumble or collect taxes in an alternative form. Thus the higher permit fees and the sin taxes. The other choice is to raise income and sales taxes. You will never be able to dump all the politicians.

I don't smoke so I don't care about cigs that burn out. Sounds like a good safety precaution for the very small percentage of people that smoke irresponsibly. Now if they would make cars that don't move if you're drunk.

 

[Davaroo]

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When we first got compulsory taxation of wages, Pandora's Box was opened. Politicians then were handed a cash bag full of money, so to speak, and the goal then changed from serving the citizen to keeping the coffers full.
Cigarettes are just one in a long line of things yet to be taxed, for our own good of course.

 

[LegHorn-BusHorn]

Like I said, and to most people I talked to, taxes and more taxes. It is part of our system, and will always be. Now, just to let you all know, I am smoking more because I have to smoke less. Sounds like a conspiracy to me?? I also am more conjusted than normal...go figure!