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[joebryant]

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Honestly, I do hope that you will somehow manage to quit. I know part of the reason you hesitate is because you don't want the sanctimonious jerks to thank that they convinced you with their rudeness. Get past them and quit to satisfy yourself. Then you'll have to constantly face dieting to lose the extra pounds and wishing you could just have ONE cigarette (then you'd feel... whatever?) for the rest of your life. In spite of all that, after a few months, it's so nice to be able to breathe without hearing yourself doing it. "Just do it."

 

[lockedhearts]

After watching 2 uncles die a painful death from lung cancer that went to their brains.......I wouldn't smoke if you paid me......so not a pretty way to go!
I know it's an addiction and you have to really want to quit, I just wish more people understood what could happen to them. Not saying it will, but could.

 

[Sugar Sand Farm]

I am an ex smoker and I don't believe they should tax and retax cigarettes. I quit over 8 years ago when the hospital where DH worked decided to go smokeless. They offered the employees and spouces the patch for free. DH and I decided it was time to quit and we were successful. That doesn't mean I try to convenience everyone to stop. I think it your own business. A smoker doesn't run me off the road or crash into me like a drunk driver does, If they want to smoke and injure their health so be it. I do think its a shame so many people who smoke turn around and sue the tobacco company when they get sick. No one put that first cigarette in their hands but them. They took the first puff and the last. How can anyone who smokes say they don't understand the risk of smoking. If you decide to take that risk, don't try to sue the company you bought them from. I think this started the trend of it becoming politically incorrect to smoke. Sure there was talk of second hand smoke but truthfully I think the pollution is worse. And some of these new energy companies (coal) put out some very toxic pollution.

 

[Eggs4Sale]

I stopped smoking when I found out I was pregnant, but DH still smokes, despite a few half-hearted attempts to quit. I don't begrudge him for it at all. He works hard, VERY hard, and he's good to us.

It really ticks us both off that the taxes on cigarettes are through the roof, and people want them to be taxed MORE. They have more than doubled in price since I quit 12 years ago. A carton was about $25. I thought that was a lot then.

Smokers get treated like (or worse than) child molesters and nun-killers. My husband is very considerate about smoking. He hasn't blown smoke in your face or thrown butts out the window. He goes out of his way to avoid people when he's smoking. But it just doesn't matter to some people.

I hope you all have success if you're trying to quit. If you really want to, you WILL be able to do it.

If you're not, you can order cigarettes cheap from Europe. The postage costs a lot, but it's still cheaper than buying from Sam's Club. They have a lot of our regular cigs but the labels are not in English.
AND, they don't snuff out on their own.
Man, that would have burned me up! (Get it!)

Referred to earlier...
Here's a list of what is or can be in cigarettes:
http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

 

[English Chick]

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[Davaroo]

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Put it aside? We must be talking about different leaders than the ones we have now. Ive said for years we should have a program where our medical taxes - which we already pay - go to an investment fund. The money grows, it is there when needed and the governemnt gets another source of tax money that is earned not taken.
Instead their answer is to tax some more and "manage" that, like they do everything else.

Im always intrigued when the citizens themselves cry out for more taxation. Remember the government creates no wealth - what it gives to one, it takes from another.

 

[Davaroo]

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Oddly, and perhaps surprisingly, taxes didn't used to be "part of our system." That we allow, and expect them to be, is the interesting thing.

TIDBIT: The federal government has no official jurisdiction beyond 60 miles of Washington, DC. SO I wonder - why do we keep inviting them into our affairs?

 

[gypsy2621]

I have to laugh at all the Non Smoking people out there screaming how everyone should quit smoking, yeah smokes are bad for you, sure they might cause cancer, yada yada,
Now lets look at a few other things that are 100 times as bad
indoor air freshners, plug ins
dryer sheets
floor waxes
floor cleaners
aerosol air freshners
factory work
mold
bleach
carpets
the list goes on and on.
I think this argument has been addressed like a million times on this forum, never to any good end.

Believe itor not when I was 25 I was diagnosed with a type of COPD,(chronic bronchitis) guess what caused it.
Nope wasnt smoking ( I didnt smoke at the time)
It was caused by the cutting oil that was in the air at the factory I worked at for 3 years. minute particles of oil settining in the the bonchial tubes.
Know what even quitting working there didnt relieve the problem once the film of oil settles in it never goes away.
My sister worked there for many years and never smoked, but you guessed it now has a type of lung cancer.( cant remember the specific type).

Yes Cigarettes do taste weird, and nasty now days, its to keep you from stopping there for taking money away from those who really dont want you to stop smoking.
Hey someone has to foot the overspending.

 

[joebryant]

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Amen!
If some of the self-righteous, rude non-smokers would spend their energy getting the environment cleaned up and rid of corporate polluters maybe the world would go around a lot faster.

Also, I used to tell my overweight "friends" who wanted to comment on my smoking "for my own good' that when they lost 40 pounds of fat that was killing them, then they could come back, and we'd talk.

 

[Eggs4Sale]

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Oddly, and perhaps surprisingly, taxes didn't used to be "part of our system." That we allow, and expect them to be, is the interesting thing.

TIDBIT: The federal government has no official jurisdiction beyond 60 miles of Washington, DC. SO I wonder - why do we keep inviting them into our affairs?

Thank you, Dave.

I'll admit I haven't been keen on politics or American history till about three years ago, so there's a lot I still don't know.
But I like to think that if I know I'm not literate on a subject that encroaches upon taking away the rights of myself or others, I'll just shut my big ol' pie hole.
Taxes, however, I know. And if anyone thinks that we can't subsist without minimal taxes, they are simply incorrect. If you knew what we were paying for every time we bought something, earned something, inherited something, or sold something, you'd probably get pretty ticked off.
I saw a list of 'funding requests' from organizations on my County representatives website. The first reaction was "WE'RE supposed to pay for that?" The second reaction was "We're supposed to pay for THAT?" I'm sorry, but there are a lot of programs I don't believe should EXIST much less be paid for my me or you. Non-profit, my as#.