Dog attack - Ellie dislocated toe - me, broken bones UPDATE

[Tweeza]

JJ I sent you a PM. Please let me know if you get it or not.

Thanks
Tweeza

 

[rancher hicks]

More people have to sue the dog owners, and their insurance companies. Try to look at the Animal Control Officers and other reports of the offending dog. Perhaps you can go after them for not taking action against dog owners and the offending animal. Maybe losing their home owners insurance will be a deterent.

 

[4 Love of Baby Chickens]

I'm so sorry for you and your hen. I think that you should file a complaint against AC, the rude officer and sue the owner of the dog.

The attitude to loose dogs threatning your livestock and you is WAY different here in TN than where you live. Two years ago, about 5 dogs came onto my land. Two hunting dogs (a Curr and a Catahoola hound) and three mutts. Four of those dogs were threating my cat, my dog, chickens and one was even threating ME!!!! I called the AC and they told me to shoot the dogs. I hated to do that. I love dogs but enough is enough if they're growling and snarling at you. My dog Blackie was 9 at this time and she was snarling at that dog warning him to keep his distance from me. She also warned the other dogs to keep their distance from the chickens and my cat Socks (whom she liked which is kinda rare for a dog to like a cat).

Two of them were shot, two disappeared (the AC probably got them beacause they sent a truck out) and I took the youngest one to the AC. If my dog Blackie got along with him I would've kept him. He was so cute and friendly. He was only a few years old.

 

[Equus5O]

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It's NJ... for the most part I am not surprised...remember we love the bears

Please don't paint us all with same brush.

Sandra

 

[thewarriorchild]

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It's NJ... for the most part I am not surprised...remember we love the bears

Please don't paint us all with same brush.

Sandra

I said for the most part and I am not even sure what you are referring to.

 

[thewarriorchild]

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I wish I lived nearby. I would love to help. I would even get some target practice in.

I offered... not sure where we are in relation to each other.

 

[zippy11455]

Call the Health Department and tell them you have been bitten by a dog and are uncertain as to its rabies vaccination status. Give the Health Dept the name and address of the people who harbor the dog. That will get things moving. The owners will have to prove the dog has been vaccinated or turn it over to be quarantined for 10 days (at the owners expense). If the owners refuse to pay for the quarantine the animal can be euthanized and its brain will be tested for rabies. The testing is done by state labs. Not sure how it works in your state, but that is how NYS handles this situation. Also, here if the dog bites a person, generally it's a dead dog walking. If a dog is aggressive to people it's really hard to keep it from being euthanized. Health Dept and animal control force the issue and the owners usually don't fight it.

 

[jjthink]

hi everybody, and my sincere apologies in advance that i haven't yet been able to give proper acknowledgement/response to the generous detail you have provided in your thoughtful posts. i am still in mind altering pain, trying to get things done 'one armed', have a huge event tomorrow that was supposed to involved carrying many hundreds of pounds of stained glass and have been trying to find someone i can pay to help (and have, mercifully), and then there's tending to ellie and the other dear pets. the house needed much attention before people arrive today for this event and i had needed to go food shopping. unfortunately everything is taking so much longer without 2 hands! i have renewed profound respect and empathy for the legions of people who have to live without one limb or another. i am lucky that for me this will hopefully be temporary.

went to the ortho yesterday - they redid the cast but note i need to return again in one week for another cast after swelling has hopefully receded. there's spiral fractures - kind of like a corkscrew.

anyhow, ellie got some relief from the anti-inflammatory injection, and put a little weight on her leg later in the day yesterday. the injection only lasts one day so i will probably turn to aspirin water for a couple days to try to help take the edge off for her. thank goodness i might not have to medicate her by mouth because i can't do that with one hand/arm - we all know it takes 3!! BJ roos joy upon her return from the vets was so beautiful to see - his worry before then palpable and not good for his health.

got a phone message from animal control (in the health department) yesterday saying that since there was no evidence of bites or blood they don't quarantine and that as far as rabies, that she called the vet and was told the dog had its shot - she said that this is done verbally only. i left her a message repeating that indeed there was blood (my friend's pants still have blood on them - not yet laundered) - we both had blood on our hands and arms also - and that while we are not asserting puncture wounds,......... blood, scratches and plenty of saliva are reason enough.

i did place one call to an attorneys office (literally randomly, though a respected firm as far as i know) late yesterday after ortho appt. unlike my property flooding situation, where there is a mountain of incontrovertible evidence of a neighboring development's violations causing the destruction of my property, but no lawyers willing to take the case on contingency (p.s. i have never ever sued anyone before but lately i can't not seem to escape irresponsible people), this time the attorney was very eager to talk to me, indicating this would be a contingency case. so i have agreed to see him this coming monday. he confirmed what you smart folks have been saying and what the local police here were unknowledgeable about, and that is that their homeowners policy would come into play.

the dog owner left me another phone message yesterday - i have not returned the call - i just can't fathom that conversation right now, even though i recognize that it took some courage for her to call. maybe will see what the lawyer tells me to do.

i am eager to carefully reread your posts asap. a couple ofquick things. livestock is not allowed in town but chickens are not amongst the definition they provide in the ord, so i have to refer to them as pets.

i am in central jersey 15 minutes from the western border but will be trying to manage - i don't want to inconvenience anyone unless absolutely necessary.

i am so sad about the anti-chicken mentality - so sad for our feathered friends. there is a book about chickens in my future - and my goal is to shed some light on the wonders of them in a way that really reaches people. there is no way i could watch ellie get torn to shreds while in terror and agony, with BJ watching in helpless horror, and not do everything in my power to save her. it's not in me. why the universe seems to see fit to make one pay a price for that i do not know - it's pretty low rent - but i would do it all over again.

i do wish i was more coordinated - takes forever to do the simplest of things and i was fiercely behind as it was, really needing to do a lot of work in short order(typing with one finger is vastly slower for my work for work, which at the moment is an hourly consulting thing - it'll take at least 3 times longer but i can't charge the org for pecking at the computer - not fair to them). now the flooding water diversion effort is tabled as well - i can't shovel etc, and had hoped before the heat of summer to do this crucially needed work to try to save my house, and now i'll be in a cast till ~july, with perhaps (likely?) restrictionsbeyond as i doubt one can jump right into extreme use. if i think too much on all that is now messed up because of this (can't mow etc.), it's too maddening/frustrating and deenergizing.

and always always always my time seems to get totally consumed because of irresponsible humans.

thank you thank you for your company, support, knowledge, ideas - i am so grateful

jj

 

[shaggy]

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benefit of the doubt goes a very long ways in restoring bearable relationships (if not friendly)

if the dog owner had the courage to call you and leave a message - it might go a very long ways for you to return the favor

once a lawsuit goes through - there is no turning back

 

[wegotchickens]

So sorry you're going through so much stress. Will pray that your loads become lighter!