Dogs more important than Chickens?

[Dita Orlik]

I would not do that to my worst enemy and for sure not to the dog. There is hundred different ways what you can do but this is not an option.

Yeh…but no, no excuse for that either way I look at it. ..no no, not good, just not an option, that would never be an option for me. I know you right, people are like that, there is a word for them….haha

 

[The Moonshiner]

Yeh…but no, no excuse for that either way I look at it. ..no no, not good, just not an option, that would never be an option for me. I know you right, people are like that, there is a word for them….haha

What's the word?
Asking for a dog shooting friend.

 

[Dita Orlik]

What's the word?
Asking for a dog shooting friend.

It will make no difference what word… empathy doesn't grow on the trees and brains either. I can’t use the bad words on this site but I can tell you it's the opposite off kind, brave, fair play or decent.

 

[The Moonshiner]

What about empathy for the chickens?
What if a dog shows up on your property and starts killing all your chickens and won't stop?

 

[TOMTE]

What about empathy for the chickens?
What if a dog shows up on your property and starts killing all your chickens and won't stop?

I think this subject is too nuanced to be taking sides (for lack of a better phrase).

I don't think it's necessarily about empathy. It's about what's most important to the individual(s) in the situation.

I can confidently say that even though I love my chickens dearly, I would not be able to shoot and kill a dog if it happened to attack/kill them. Because I also love dogs very dearly and it's not something I would be able to do. I'd do everything in my power to get the dog away— loud noise, grab and contain the dog if it isn't aggressive, chase it away, throw things at it as a last resort probably, but I would not be able to kill the dog. I'd be heartbroken at any chicken losses/injuries but I just don't have it in me to kill a dog in this situation.

That's just me. Obviously plenty of other people would have no problem with doing it, and though I can't relate and it does upset me, I do understand. Especially in situations where a flock is somebody's livelihood, and they can't afford to lose their chickens.

As long as the dog isn't like, tortured/abused for killing the chickens, do what you need to do.

 

[Dita Orlik]

I think this subject is too nuanced to be taking sides (for lack of a better phrase).

I don't think it's necessarily about empathy. It's about what's most important to the individual(s) in the situation.

I can confidently say that even though I love my chickens dearly, I would not be able to shoot and kill a dog if it happened to attack/kill them. Because I also love dogs very dearly and it's not something I would be able to do. I'd do everything in my power to get the dog away— loud noise, grab and contain the dog if it isn't aggressive, chase it away, throw things at it as a last resort probably, but I would not be able to kill the dog. I'd be heartbroken at any chicken losses/injuries but I just don't have it in me to kill a dog in this situation.

That's just me. Obviously plenty of other people would have no problem with doing it, and though I can't relate and it does upset me, I do understand. Especially in situations where a flock is somebody's livelihood, and they can't afford to lose their chickens.

As long as the dog isn't like, tortured/abused for killing the chickens, do what you need to do.

I think it's pretty simple people who kill coyotes and raccoons and snakes in order to ‘save chickens’ they going to kill the dog too. That's what I'm saying if you are incapable to figure out how to protect the chickens without murdering everything else then don't have chickens. Because if I can do it, they can do it. But the problem here is these people they love murdering other animals.

 

[TOMTE]

I think it's pretty simple people who kill coyotes and raccoons and snakes in order to ‘save chickens’ they going to kill the dog too. That's what I'm saying if you are incapable to figure out how to protect the chickens without murdering everything else then don't have chickens. Because if I can do it, they can do it. But the problem here is these people they love murdering other animals.

I would kill a raccoon or other predator if I had to. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd do it. We should all do as much non-lethal predator proofing as is feasible, before resorting to the gun. That's just sensible. But if that fails, you do what needs to be done. What needs to be done doesn't just depend on the person, it also depends on the situation.

It's not as black and white as you're making it out to be. I agree to an extent that some people are too trigger happy when it comes to predators but that's not always the case and it's not fair to generalize.

 

[fowltemptress]

I think it's pretty simple people who kill coyotes and raccoons and snakes in order to ‘save chickens’ they going to kill the dog too. That's what I'm saying if you are incapable to figure out how to protect the chickens without murdering everything else then don't have chickens. Because if I can do it, they can do it. But the problem here is these people they love murdering other animals.

I do shoot dogs and cats, but not the wild predators. The reason being is one, the predators pick off one or two birds here or there, and I'm able to maintain my flock numbers through letting my birds brood. Dogs do not dash in and leave with one bird; they stay until they've killed every bird they can get to on my property. And two, whereas the wild animals really have as much a right to be here as I do, there is absolutely no excuse for dogs that do not belong to me to be roaming on my property. Not only do they destroy entire flocks in one go, but they're disrupting the native species. I've caught a neighbor's dog destroying a wild turkey nest, and I've watched people's dogs find and tear apart newborn fawns, baby rabbits, fledgling birds, armadillos - there's a reason why I don't even allow my own dogs to roam unsupervised on the property, and you sure as heck won't find me ever owning an outdoor cat. I've had neighbors with a few outdoor cats wonder aloud why they never seem to see lizards or as many small birds on their property, and I just have to roll my eyes and grit my teeth, and curse the fact that my car needs a new paint job that I will never be able to afford because of my previous neighborhoods permissive attitude towards roaming cats. People truly do not understand how destructive their pets can be when not properly kept on their own property. Wild predators don't even come close. I don't want to kill dogs, but until people take the responsibilities of pet ownership seriously, it's what I have to do.

 

[lafinestra66]

A dog recently killed four out of five of my hens while I was at work and I got a lot of the same responses from people. I also have a dog but I know that alot of dogs (mine included) will chase and grab anything that runs/flaps by them. My hens were penned up, on my property, not free ranging. This dog got out of its fence and came from a house almost a mile away. Never seen it before and knew it wasn't a neighbor's dog from my street/surrounding streets.

The police told me to shoot this dog if I see it near any of my animals again in my yard. Yikes! Shocking to have a cop encourage you to shoot something but that's the law where I live.

Not sure if I could actually do that but I don't think it's right the attitude alot of dog owners have regarding which animals are important and which animals are not important. Also according to cops, this person's dogs get out frequently (he has 3 huskies) and he has been ticketed more than once. I'm expecting the dog will come back. Don't know when it will happen but it's already returned once that I know of. Saw it in my yard by the (now empty) coop. The other 2 huskies were caught running along the state highway about .25 mile away from my yard this same day. Those are some big, expensive dogs to let wander and wow, how long were they gone before the guy noticed? Kinda scary.

Please be careful and good move on the electric fence. That should hopefully do the job because the dog will probably return.

 

[TOMTE]

I do shoot dogs and cats, but not the wild predators. The reason being is one, the predators pick off one or two birds here or there, and I'm able to maintain my flock numbers through letting my birds brood. Dogs do not dash in and leave with one bird; they stay until they've killed every bird they can get to on my property. And two, whereas the wild animals really have as much a right to be here as I do, there is absolutely no excuse for dogs that do not belong to me to be roaming on my property. Not only do they destroy entire flocks in one go, but they're disrupting the native species. I've caught a neighbor's dog destroying a wild turkey nest, and I've watched people's dogs find and tear apart newborn fawns, baby rabbits, fledgling birds, armadillos - there's a reason why I don't even allow my own dogs to roam unsupervised on the property, and you sure as heck won't find me ever owning an outdoor cat. I've had neighbors with a few outdoor cats wonder aloud why they never seem to see lizards or as many small birds on their property, and I just have to roll my eyes and grit my teeth, and curse the fact that my car needs a new paint job that I will never be able to afford because of my previous neighborhoods permissive attitude towards roaming cats. People truly do not understand how destructive their pets can be when not properly kept on their own property. Wild predators don't even come close. I don't want to kill dogs, but until people take the responsibilities of pet ownership seriously, it's what I have to do.