Dosage help! Anyone use these All Bird products? (Water-soluble wormer and antibiotic)

[casportpony]

If I didn't have a scale I would assume that one teaspoon weighs 3 grams and I would shoot for no less than 2000 mg per gallon, so 1.7 to 2 teaspoons per gallon.

 

[chickengoggles]

If I didn't have a scale I would assume that one teaspoon weighs 3 grams and I would shoot for no less than 2000 mg per gallon, so 1.7 to 2 teaspoons per gallon.

 

[dawg53]

Why dont they give these darn medication dosages in standard measure rather than metric? You know why, probably imported from overseas.

 

[chickengoggles]

Why dont they give these darn medication dosages in standard measure rather than metric? You know why, probably imported from overseas.

It's a UK company.

 

[chickengoggles]

If I didn't have a scale I would assume that one teaspoon weighs 3 grams and I would shoot for no less than 2000 mg per gallon, so 1.7 to 2 teaspoons per gallon.

Can I ask the same question about the wormer for the future?

 

[casportpony]

Can I ask the same question about the wormer for the future?

Yeah, but give me a couple of days, lol.

 

[chickengoggles]

Yeah, but give me a couple of days, lol.

 

[chickengoggles]

While casportpony works feverishly in her secret lab to solve the wormer mystery, anyone care to weigh in on my vet's suggestion to wait 3 weeks for the second course of fenbendazole (after treating via mash for 7 days)? I've only encountered a 10 day wait before the second round of fenbendazole on all of the chicken sites.

 

[dawg53]

I prefer to give wormers orally.
I use safeguard liquid goat wormer sometimes and I dose each chicken orally first thing in the mornings before they eat or drink. I do this 3 days in a row, sometimes 5 days in a row if I suspect capillary infection. When I use valbazen, I dose each chicken orally first thing in the morning, then again 10 days later. I also worm monthly and I have other wormers that I use as well.
Since you have a back injury (I can relate,) it's best to use a wormer they can drink by themselves. Set the mixture out for them to drink prior to letting them out of the coop in the morning. Make sure it's their sole source of water to drink. Also remove their feed prior to letting them out. Your birds will be hungry and thirsty after letting them out and will readily drink the treated water. The worms will be hungry too and the wormer will be very effective knocking them off. Then after 2 or 3 hours, go ahead and feed your chickens. Repeat this procedure as your vet prescribed.
If you're adding the mixture to their feed, disregard withholding feed. I'd remove their feed 4 hours before they go to roost the late afternoon before worming the next morning. Do not withhold water.

 

[chickengoggles]

I prefer to give wormers orally.
I use safeguard liquid goat wormer sometimes and I dose each chicken orally first thing in the mornings before they eat or drink. I do this 3 days in a row, sometimes 5 days in a row if I suspect capillary infection. When I use valbazen, I dose each chicken orally first thing in the morning, then again 10 days later. I also worm monthly and I have other wormers that I use as well.
Since you have a back injury (I can relate,) it's best to use a wormer they can drink by themselves. Set the mixture out for them to drink prior to letting them out of the coop in the morning. Make sure it's their sole source of water to drink. Also remove their feed prior to letting them out. Your birds will be hungry and thirsty after letting them out and will readily drink the treated water. The worms will be hungry too and the wormer will be very effective knocking them off. Then after 2 or 3 hours, go ahead and feed your chickens. Repeat this procedure as your vet prescribed.
If you're adding the mixture to their feed, disregard withholding feed. I'd remove their feed 4 hours before they go to roost the late afternoon before worming the next morning. Do not withhold water.

Thanks! I'll definitely go back to oral meds when I can.

So you wait 10 days, too! My vet did a mental calculation of some worm's life cycle and told me to wait 3 weeks! So weird.

Wanna see the effect of oral fenbendazole at .25 ml/pound of body weight, 3 days later? (I managed one night and one morning of oral meds before I waved the white flag)

I left it as a thumbnail, in case no one wants to look.

Also, FYI, I took poop only from the two hens who had loose stool for fecals at the state lab prior to all of this craziness. The last group of hens and roo I got from a friend were wormed first before coming here, and no one else besides the one from the first group, who had the heavy parasite load, passed worms! (And I never saw any prior to worming - I clean my coop and barnyard daily, so would have seen them!)