Drake with Prolapsed Phallus

[shawluvsbirds]

I was thinking of the condition of the phallus itself and the topical treatment that could help reduce swelling so it can retract.

Right. That was my thinking also.
Whatever you put on there is just going to come right back off if he is swimming.

 

[DuckDuckJuice]

Bumpy update: Still doing well, but definitely harboring some resentment toward me. Every time I check on him, I get a lot of huffing/hissing in response and have to (gently) tussle with him and burrito him in a towel to accomplish anything. The amount of energy he is exerting to fight me is an encouraging sign, though. It tells me he’s feeling much better.

Also, I’m very happy this thread has expanded to help @QuackToTheFuture. It nice to know so much good is coming out of my initial decision to google “duck penis hanging out,” as that was not exactly a high point in my life.

I hope Rudy comes through this okay, but I agree with Isaac that it’s looking like you might be headed toward amputation as well. Definitely keep trying to keep it moistened. One thing I would like to point out- I understand the concern with honey dissolving in the bath but, from my experience with Bumpy, ointment doesn’t budge much. Also, if the goal is to reduce inflammation, wouldn’t a cold bath help with that and potentially work faster than medication, as well as keep the area cleaner? Bumpy retracted his phallus (post-amputation) as soon as I began to clean around it with a cold washcloth and antiseptic soap. Just a thought.

 

[shawluvsbirds]

Bumpy update: Still doing well, but definitely harboring some resentment toward me. Every time I check on him, I get a lot of huffing/hissing in response and have to (gently) tussle with him and burrito him in a towel to accomplish anything. The amount of energy he is exerting to fight me is an encouraging sign, though. It tells me he’s feeling much better.View attachment 2524055
Also, I’m very happy this thread has expanded to help @QuackToTheFuture. It nice to know so much good is coming out of my initial decision to google “duck penis hanging out,” as that was not exactly a high point in my life.

I hope Rudy comes through this okay, but I agree with Isaac that it’s looking like you might be headed toward amputation as well. Definitely keep trying to keep it moistened. One thing I would like to point out- I understand the concern with honey dissolving in the bath but, from my experience with Bumpy, ointment doesn’t budge much. Also, if the goal is to reduce inflammation, wouldn’t a cold bath help with that and potentially work faster than medication, as well as keep the area cleaner? Bumpy retracted his phallus (post-amputation) as soon as I began to clean around it with a cold washcloth and antiseptic soap. Just a thought.

Maybe a cold clean bath then the ointment.

 

[QuackToTheFuture]

Glad to hear Bumpy continues to improve!

When I extended Rudy's member for another photo I pulled it a little further out and did find some yellow ...something... to scrape off. Before and after photos attached. No idea if it was a foreign substance or part of him. With that gone I'm back to not seeing anything that's obviously necrotic, but there is a more pronounced color difference in the end versus base than yesterday. It's notably lighter (which maybe is a good thing?) but is slightly yellowish.

He got a honey rub-down right after his photo shoot -- which is definitely not a category of care I was expecting when we decided to get ducks! -- and has been hanging out on a blockaded corner of my office with me for the past hour. He did have one poo which was mostly water, but at least confirms he's able to pass something.

I'll plan on adding some Neosporin and replacing his tub with a smaller drinking bucket before putting him back in his yard enclosure for the night. Maybe I'll add a little sugar, honey, or molasses to force a few calories on him in case he still doesn't want to eat.

I've been trying to search other threads to figure out what antibiotic options are available without a prescription so I'm ready when the time to snip presumably comes. Does anyone have a recommendation off the top of their head?

 

[Aunt Angus]

As aforementioned, I ordered antibiotics from All Bird Products without a prescription.

 

[Isaac 0]

I would recommend Baytril if it comes down to amputation. The dose is 0.05ml per pound, twice a day, orally for no more than five days. If you live in the U.S you can acquire this without a prescription.

https://allbirdproducts.com/products/baytril-10

At the base of the phallus, is the skin around the prepuce folding inwards? If so, try to massage the skin back up, as oftentimes that will prevent proper retraction. I don't like the color the end portion is taking on.

 

[QuackToTheFuture]

Thanks! I was finally able to get it back in last night. Hadn't realized how the anatomy of the vent was oriented and where I needed to apply pressure. I basically ended up sticking my lubed fingertip right in behind it so I could push it forward rather than straight in. Went in easily once I got the technique right but every-time I put it in he poops within a minute and it pops right back out when he does.

Agree that the yellowing doesn't look so great, there's a little bit of redness today. It still seems to have blood flow all the way to the end but I'm increasingly confident that amputation is inevitable. Question at this point is if I should wait for antibiotics to arrive or just go for it now. Going to make a few calls and see if there is any chance of me acquiring something locally before placing my online order but, unless things start to improve quickly, I think Rudy has less than 24 hours to say goodbye to half of his little buddy.

 

[Isaac 0]

Thanks! I was finally able to get it back in last night. Hadn't realized how the anatomy of the vent was oriented and where I needed to apply pressure. I basically ended up sticking my lubed fingertip right in behind it so I could push it forward rather than straight in. Went in easily once I got the technique right but every-time I put it in he poops within a minute and it pops right back out when he does.

Agree that the yellowing doesn't look so great, there's a little bit of redness today. It still seems to have blood flow all the way to the end but I'm increasingly confident that amputation is inevitable. Question at this point is if I should wait for antibiotics to arrive or just go for it now. Going to make a few calls and see if there is any chance of me acquiring something locally before placing my online order but, unless things start to improve quickly, I think Rudy has less than 24 hours to say goodbye to half of his little buddy.

Could you post a current picture of the phallus?

 

[QuackToTheFuture]

...not one that's attached...

I was able to find a local bird store that carried tetracycline (I figure this now versus Enrofolxacin in a couple of days would be better) but wasn't able to get there before they closed so was tentatively planning to put it off one more day. The afternoon inspection finally uncovered some darkening areas near the spot I'd scraped yellow stuff off the day before. The tip, although still not blackening was now a light grey versus a light pink which I took to mean there was no longer blood flow.

Based on this I decided the odds of it being saved was now officially zero and any further delay would only serve to give the infection a chance to spread. So I went for it.

Took the learning from Bumpy's remainder slipping back in and preemptively and put a large bobby pin -- don't tell my wife -- just below the target point. This actually ended up serving quadruple duty as it also aided in maneuvering, kept the spot marked, and restricted bleeding a bit. It turned out to be a big help particularly since I was doing it without an assistant. Definitely recommend it to anyone else having to do this, especially if you're doing it solo.

I didn't have anything for an anesthetic but either there weren't many active nerve endings or Rudy has a crazy pain tolerance because he didn't even flinch. Neosporined the heck out of everything, held the tip a few minutes until the bleeding was pretty well stopped, and tucked it back in.

Put some fresh oregano into his water since I know that has some degree of immune-boosting properties to help tide him over until I can get to bird store tomorrow.

Unfortunately, it wasn't going to be practical to take any photos during the procedure but I snapped a couple of what I cut off for the sake of posterity.

Will follow up so everyone knows how it turned out. Just out of curiosity, is anyone aware of a diagram of the vent anatomy being posted anywhere? I actually skimmed through a fair amount of the page created by @casportpony before I even posted but couldn't find anything. If it would be helpful I could try to contribute a diagram with and some learnings on how to most effectively "push it back in".

 

[DuckDuckJuice]

...not one that's attached...

I was able to find a local bird store that carried tetracycline (I figure this now versus Enrofolxacin in a couple of days would be better) but wasn't able to get there before they closed so was tentatively planning to put it off one more day. The afternoon inspection finally uncovered some darkening areas near the spot I'd scraped yellow stuff off the day before. The tip, although still not blackening was now a light grey versus a light pink which I took to mean there was no longer blood flow.

Based on this I decided the odds of it being saved was now officially zero and any further delay would only serve to give the infection a chance to spread. So I went for it.

Took the learning from Bumpy's remainder slipping back in and preemptively and put a large bobby pin -- don't tell my wife -- just below the target point. This actually ended up serving quadruple duty as it also aided in maneuvering, kept the spot marked, and restricted bleeding a bit. It turned out to be a big help particularly since I was doing it without an assistant. Definitely recommend it to anyone else having to do this, especially if you're doing it solo.

I didn't have anything for an anesthetic but either there weren't many active nerve endings or Rudy has a crazy pain tolerance because he didn't even flinch. Neosporined the heck out of everything, held the tip a few minutes until the bleeding was pretty well stopped, and tucked it back in.

Put some fresh oregano into his water since I know that has some degree of immune-boosting properties to help tide him over until I can get to bird store tomorrow.

Unfortunately, it wasn't going to be practical to take any photos during the procedure but I snapped a couple of what I cut off for the sake of posterity.

Will follow up so everyone knows how it turned out. Just out of curiosity, is anyone aware of a diagram of the vent anatomy being posted anywhere? I actually skimmed through a fair amount of the page created by @casportpony before I even posted but couldn't find anything. If it would be helpful I could try to contribute a diagram with and some learnings on how to most effectively "push it back in".

Good job! I’m sorry you had to do that alone; I don’t know that I would have been able to. I was lucky that my husband was able to hold Bumpy while I made the cut. You definitely made the right choice. I’m guessing, prior to it turning gray, the yellowing at the tip was an early indicator of restricted blood flow to the area- similar to when you press down on your skin and it temporarily turns yellow/white where the blood supply was lost. By taking action now, you probably saved him a good deal of pain.