d'Uccle color genetics

[Matthew86]

I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that you answered till now. I also have a new piece of information, the birds are supposed to be carrying a silver or gold gene. I'm not sure if that changes anything. Thanks for the reply, and sorry for my late one.

Which ones are you referring to?

The way that works is ex: Millie's have the gold gene. ( from buff Columbians)

Silver Millie's of course have the silver gene ( from Columbians)

Males have 2 copies and females have 1.

2 gold = gold, 2 silver= silver and 1 gold 1 silver= golden. ( in males) females are either gold or silver

 

[nothingbutbirds]

Which ones are you referring to?

The way that works is ex: Millie's have the gold gene. ( from buff Columbians)

Silver Millie's of course have the silver gene ( from Columbians)

Males have 2 copies and females have 1.

2 gold = gold, 2 silver= silver and 1 gold 1 silver= golden. ( in males) females are either gold or silver

The Splash are supposed to be carrying one of the two.

 

[newlinta]

These are two pics of a project chick I came up with surprisingly. The cross is between a mille fleur roo over a bantam, frizzled, white Cochin hen, both many years pure for color.:

Any thoughts as to which best color of d'Uccle I should breed it to eventually try getting back to this color???

Ok...whatever happened to these chicks? I want some! Lol

 

[Matthew86]

Sorry to be so slow getting back on here, life got in the way. You asked, "Is the current color the only thing that matters for those string of letters? Don't the parent's & even grandparent's colors play a role in the combinations?" Well, the definitive answer to that is absolutely! That is what this is all about. Now I'm with you as far as finding that string of letters very difficult to follow. I made a commitment quite awhile back, after making some big mistakes on here, to further my education in the field of poultry genetics. My history was with horses and I thought I knew something, HA! I knew NOTHING! When it comes to chickens, it's a whole different kettle of fish. That's why I've made the comments I have about needing to put your running shoes on, if any of the genetics specialists did log on here, it would be a real challenge to stay up with the conversations. What you describe with the failure to thrive and loss of vigor in your chicks sounds like some genetic frailty in the line and you could proceed in a couple of ways, 1. you could cull the problem out and that requires some distasteful choices needing to be made, or you could start over with different stock. You might also try different combinations of birds. Sometimes it's a matter of recessives coupling up in two certain individuals.

I was just on another thread and found a couple of links that have some VERY interesting information on them about the color varieties. One of the most fascinating being that the Golden Neck color is the "splash" variety of the Blue Millie Fleur. If you follow the Andalusian gene and know the % of Black/Blue/Splash then you know how to breed the Millie Fleur for the Andalusian gene and you'll get regular Millie Fleur/Blue Millie Fleur/and Golden Neck. I also remember seeing a picture of someones birds on one of the threads and I think he thought the color was an aberrant color, but if this factor holds true, the birds are Golden Necks. I'll see if I can go find them and try and make a link to them.

My Millie Fleur are really nice and I've got some Blue Millie Fleur that are OK. I am going to use the MF to improve the BMF and in the process I would guess I'll end up getting some of the Golden Neck, although you do need to breed BMF to BMF to get the GN. Well, I'll go look for the GNs I was talking about.

blue Millie x blue Millie = 25% Millie, 50% blue Millie, 25% blue Millie splash. Not golden neck. They look identical but breed different

 

[paris_r]

are blue ears a 'problem'? i have a few purebreds that have them.

 

[augiedranch]

Following

 

[Ducclelover1024]

If I breed one of my golden neck roo's to one of my porcelain hen's,what color chicks would I get ??

 

[PigMommy]

I need to know this as well!!!!! The genetics thing makes my head spin.

 

[Chang1993]

I have fun crossing my d'uccles. Here is my Mille Fluer D'uccle hen x Golden Neck D'uccle rooster. Have fun crossing a d'uccle to a d'uccle or other breeds.

 

[nothingbutbirds]

I have fun crossing my d'uccles. Here is my Mille Fluer D'uccle hen x Golden Neck D'uccle rooster. Have fun crossing a d'uccle to a d'uccle or other breeds.

These two colors don't cross. They breed true one way or the other. It's either a Golden Neck, or a Mille Fleur, no in between. They would be considered pure colors.