d'Uccle color genetics

[TurtleFeathers]

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Wow - I've never seen that one before!! But it still looks like you would need to know the specific genotype for the color of the breed you were entering?

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You would, but they would be split to lavender.

 

[lilcrow]

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Oh groan..............really I don't like being offensive or challenging, but I just can't seem to let things slide, so here I go..........again.................do you have a goal? I mean with what you're crossing? What I'm saying is, past the first generation (F1) there is no calculator that can help you with predicting what you're going to get from a "cross" between two purebred birds. Your F2 generation is going to be pure mess/hodge-podge and totally unrecognizable as anything remotely related to the original birds. Unless you are using an outcross to acquire a particular trait from that breed, there is little reason to mix purebred birds. IMHO
I do hope you'll take this in the spirit it is intended which is care and concern for the breeds and the welfare of our birds. I hope that we all can benefit from this thread and keep an open mind to looking at a different approach to breeding practices. If I've misunderstood you're intention, I'm truly sorry, I'll let this be a general statement about my beliefs on "designer chickens."

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Good heavens, why do you need me? You have Henk and Tim who are each far more knowledgeable than I am. This thread is the first I have ever heard of butterscotch, so I can only speculate that they are some variation of buff.

 

[wegotchickens]

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In the spectrum of tones it would be a deeper shade than buff but more golden than brown.
My goal is for people to see them and think "Golden chicken" not "yellow chicken".

Doug~ Love the Lemon color on your roo!

Yeagin1 ~ I love those millie girls, too. They are the sweetest of all my d'Uccles and the reason I fell in love with the breed.

 

[becky3086]

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Oh groan..............really I don't like being offensive or challenging, but I just can't seem to let things slide, so here I go..........again.................do you have a goal? I mean with what you're crossing? What I'm saying is, past the first generation (F1) there is no calculator that can help you with predicting what you're going to get from a "cross" between two purebred birds. Your F2 generation is going to be pure mess/hodge-podge and totally unrecognizable as anything remotely related to the original birds. Unless you are using an outcross to acquire a particular trait from that breed, there is little reason to mix purebred birds. IMHO
I do hope you'll take this in the spirit it is intended which is care and concern for the breeds and the welfare of our birds. I hope that we all can benefit from this thread and keep an open mind to looking at a different approach to breeding practices. If I've misunderstood you're intention, I'm truly sorry, I'll let this be a general statement about my beliefs on "designer chickens."

LOL, no I do understand what you are saying. I am not crossing anything without a purpose but there are a million posts on here that ask, "What do I get if I cross This with This" and someone always comes up with an answer and I have no idea how they do it. It was my understanding that the calculator could get you past the F1 generation or so I am told, not that I have ever figured it out. I do have birds that I have crossed to with a "goal" in mind as you put it and I am doing fairly well with my projects, I didn't really need a chicken calculator to do it or all the genetic knowledge just some good advice from other people.

 

[Henk69]

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Wow - I've never seen that one before!! But it still looks like you would need to know the specific genotype for the color of the breed you were entering?

In the crossbreeds calculator some colors are listed in between the breeds. These are exceptional colors like silver sussex.
Breeds that have one general color are prepared too in that list.
All others you can set via the browse M / F tabpages. Pick a groundcolor, patterncolor by list and a pattern by the picture (hover with mouse over them to see text description).

 

[becky3086]

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Ah! I get that one. Thank you!

 

[Doug the Chicken Man]

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Would these be split for Lemon?
If two Black Patterned Gold Millefleur split for Lemon were crossed then there may be a percentage that are Lemon? or Not?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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In the spectrum of tones it would be a deeper shade than buff but more golden than brown.
My goal is for people to see them and think "Golden chicken" not "yellow chicken".

Doug~ Love the Lemon color on your roo!

Yeagin1 ~ I love those millie girls, too. They are the sweetest of all my d'Uccles and the reason I fell in love with the breed.

A proper buff should be "guinea gold" (gold coin, not noisy bird), not yellow.

 

[wegotchickens]

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In the spectrum of tones it would be a deeper shade than buff but more golden than brown.
My goal is for people to see them and think "Golden chicken" not "yellow chicken".

Doug~ Love the Lemon color on your roo!

Yeagin1 ~ I love those millie girls, too. They are the sweetest of all my d'Uccles and the reason I fell in love with the breed.

A proper buff should be "guinea gold" (gold coin, not noisy bird), not yellow.

I've seen color variations from medium cream to the rich 'guinea gold' all referred to as buff.

Is there a spectrum chart that identifies the target color areas for each color label (US)?