D'uccle Thread

[mstricer]

I have been looking into the genetics of various breeds, in the genetic background of the d'uccle they can develope crests like metioned before the D'watermael is closely related to the belgian bearded d'uccle.In some other research I have done I found that belgians and watermaels were used to improve each other,some breeders do this for color then breed the crests out. With this info I could asume that those might be closeky linked in this type of breeding.Have you recently added new bloodlines, purchased new stock that you used in breeding them, that may have resulted in crests as there would be a chance of them still carrying the gene. The gene might have even been present in yours also but didnt show till that gene was combined. Im not sure whst else could have happened besides this. Medicine,unless stated that it can cause genetic mutations,I would think that this would not be the cause.What kind of meds did you use?

I looked that up and found this youtube video

 

[SilkiesForEver]

Your birds are self blue. But do I see white feathers also?

 

[hdowden]

look like a self blue but mottled (there is a difference between blue and self blue

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[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

look like a self blue but mottled (there is a difference between blue and self blue

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yes, self blue is the trade name for lavender. it's recessive but breeds true when both parents are lavender based

it is also in most cases lighter more shy blue than andalusian blue

That blue is the "normal " blue in most fowl it doesn not breed true and is only present in otherwise blacks feathers
it can make black, blue, or splash depending on the mate colorings used in the pairing

lavender mottled is often called pearl too. Working on it in my d'anvers. havent seen the pic, will go back and dig it up

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

ok found them. they are lavender for sure. and yes do look to be mottled, though very weak. They maybe just have 1 copy of mottling in them. It's recessive also, so both parents have to have it to get a good mottled bird.

In a lot of my mottled projects I get split mottled that still do show faint unevenly placed spots. That kinda looks like what is going on here.
I bet once you breed them all together, you will in fact get some nice pearl birds back out of them. Will look awesome, and it's a pretty darn rare color too in them
Congrats on them!

 

[wegotchickens]

i have a question about this chick i want to know what colour i think porcilain but i am not sure!

Breed it to a black and see what you get. My understanding is black is a "diagnostic" color for determining the genetics of a bird.
But you're in Australia, and have a much larger color gene pool to swim in. You should probably find an Aussie expert in d'Uccles to ask about that color!

 

[wegotchickens]

ok found them. they are lavender for sure. and yes do look to be mottled, though very weak. They maybe just have 1 copy of mottling in them. It's recessive also, so both parents have to have it to get a good mottled bird.

In a lot of my mottled projects I get split mottled that still do show faint unevenly placed spots. That kinda looks like what is going on here.
I bet once you breed them all together, you will in fact get some nice pearl birds back out of them. Will look awesome, and it's a pretty darn rare color too in them
Congrats on them!

Have you ever had a mottled chick that was mottled as a youngster, but went all lavender at maturity?
I have a roo & a pullet that started life this way and are very lovely lavender adults. I am wondering if they become more mottled as they age. I am keeping the pullet but planning on selling the roo. Too many roosters!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I wouldnt bet too much on it. Might loose. Could win, but just looks like a porcelain to me. Not seeing any sigh of orange feathering to it.
Now if you do start seeing some spotty orangish feathers coming in as it ages, then yes it's dominate white based and will make goldnecks when bred to a mille.

But for now, just seeing cream and blue in it.
Let it age a bit longer and repost it. It'll be easier to tel once it gets out of the awkward chick phase

 

[nothingbutbirds]

I used Doxycycline.  It is a strong antibiotic but I had some upper respiratory issues going through my flock.  They all got treated as a preventative.  I was not happy to do it, but I figured it was better than loosing my flock.  Some of my free rangers died.  Luckily non of the D'uccles were effected.  

I had 2 of my six eggs hatch this evening.  One black one, white feet.  One "half and half".  Top have black, face and belly yellow.  It is too hard to tell yet though on the 1/2 and 1/2 because the down is still pretty wet.  We will see in the AM!  Hopefully there will be some new babies to join the two!

Someone had mentioned a Silkie Gene earlier....Silkies have extra toes, and in my experience that seems to transfer in the crossings.  I had some D'uccle/silkie mixes last summer and all of the babies had the extra toes.  These mystery chicks have the normal amount of toes.  

chickies me love chickies. cant wait 4pics. like i said i was only guessing but hey with chickens anything is possible

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Have you ever had a mottled chick that was mottled as a youngster, but went all lavender at maturity?
I have a roo & a pullet that started life this way and are very lovely lavender adults. I am wondering if they become more mottled as they age. I am keeping the pullet but planning on selling the roo. Too many roosters!

yes I have some, not many though. if they hatch that way, best I can figure is they have mottling in them, may only have the recessive single copy, not sure why they do it. Seems to be more of an exception to the rules than a rule.

I have also had solid true lavender hens change to pure white with age. One was lavender for 2 years, her 3 molts she had a few speckles. The 4th molt, looked just like a perfect lavender mottled. The 5th time though she turned solid white.
Was told by a relaible source that that is usually an illness at some point in her life that some what damaged her pigmenting. as she aged it allowed for it to basically loose color with time. Have only seen that in 3 birds anywhere though, seems to be pretty rare. She still makes the prettiest lavender chicks you ever seen though