D'uccle Thread

[hdowden]

Thank you for posting the photos...I've been wondering how Lavender really differed from Self-Blue and Porcelain (ugh, I can't spell it without spell check). They kind of look Porcelain but with some tan/brown at the shoulders (that part might be the Milli coming thru however).

CG

there is no difference between lavender and self blue.

porcelain is the millie fluer pattern diluted by the self blue gene

 

[wegotchickens]

Calling goldneck a splash is really a misnomer, IMO.
Now that I've had more experience, I think the black/blue on some feathers is smut, not an expression of blue.


People started calling self-blue "lavender" because of the confusion between blue and self-blue.

 

[JulieNKC]

self blue and lavender are the same color

this is a lavender/self blue rooster (my boy)

my porcelain pullet

my blue millie

reg millie

golden neck pair (also known as splash millie)

all of them are 6 months or less except my self blue/lavender rooster

my millie pullets back (she died though)

Thank you! Pretty chickens too, I can't wait until mine get older.

Calling goldneck a splash is really a misnomer, IMO.
Now that I've had more experience, I think the black/blue on some feathers is smut, not an expression of blue.


People started calling self-blue "lavender" because of the confusion between blue and self-blue.

So if I want golden necks should I try to find the dominant white ones then? I wanted blue millie so I could have mille, blue millie, and golden necks.

I'm hoping I get this all figured out by the time I get my real ones. Are the genotypes that they are supposed to be for each variety in the standard?

 

[wegotchickens]

This little girl is a goldneck, not a splash.
None of my birds have thrown anything with blue in 2 years now.

Are you breeding for pretty pets, or to show?
If you want to show goldnecks, find goldnecks.
If you breed a variety of colors then you can never guarantee to throw true, and be like the d'Uccle owner with award-winning millies that threw mystery chicks when bred to each other. Nothing is more frustrating to someone that shows, than have a perfectly formed bird with an unshowable color.

 

[coffeekittie]

This little girl is a goldneck, not a splash.
None of my birds have thrown anything with blue in 2 years now.

Are you breeding for pretty pets, or to show?
If you want to show goldnecks, find goldnecks.
If you breed a variety of colors then you can never guarantee to throw true, and be like the d'Uccle owner with award-winning millies that threw mystery chicks when bred to each other. Nothing is more frustrating to someone that shows, than have a perfectly formed bird with an unshowable color.

WGC, isn't there an other than standard (or something like that) category for the unsanctioned colors? Sorry, can't remember what it's called.

 

[JulieNKC]

This little girl is a goldneck, not a splash.
None of my birds have thrown anything with blue in 2 years now.

Are you breeding for pretty pets, or to show?
If you want to show goldnecks, find goldnecks.
If you breed a variety of colors then you can never guarantee to throw true, and be like the d'Uccle owner with award-winning millies that threw mystery chicks when bred to each other. Nothing is more frustrating to someone that shows, than have a perfectly formed bird with an unshowable color.

Pretty pets for the most part, but would like for them to be as close as possible to standard. Which variety would be the easiest to start with, to learn type before I have to go messing with how to make the colors right? White?

 

[wegotchickens]

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WGC, isn't there an other than standard (or something like that) category for the unsanctioned colors? Sorry, can't remember what it's called.

There is AOV, but you don't get BOB or any better awards for it, and if you're feeding birds then it's helpful if they "earn a living". At least it is for We Here at Me....

The non-standard goldnecks are around because their momma threw GORGEOUS goldneck chicks when crossed to a millie roo. I had sold her 2 weeks before they hatched, but I already had an assortment of babes exactly like the one in the photo from mama crossed to a black d'Uccle. The only difference between these babes & the mama is that the babes have clearer white and more smut feathers (so far).

I wish I knew a local child in search of a long-term science project. I'd give up the spotty girls, their goldneck 1/2 brother, a spotty full brother, and a millie roo. Babies from the girls against each roo would be pretty AND adorable. Talk about your cool genetic charts, too.......

 

[wegotchickens]

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Pretty pets for the most part, but would like for them to be as close as possible to standard. Which variety would be the easiest to start with, to learn type before I have to go messing with how to make the colors right? White?

White are pretty, but a rock-solid PAIN to keep clean and pretty....

I started with mille fleur and never regretted it. I will always have millies!
Then I got self blue, but they were hatchery and I bred them out and back to improve them. The leg-band model is the result of my self-blue improvement project. I consider it a success!

In the midst of the self-blue project, I got a goldneck and a porcelain. Got rid of the porcelain fairly quickly. I prefer millies, and had a bad experience with a porcelain x self-blue crossing (there were no survivors). The goldneck was very light, so with the millie roo she threw me some show-winning goldnecks.

I had white for a while, too, and gave them up for the afore-mentioned reason.

I gave up goldneck in order to make room for black d'Uccles, which are GORGEOUS if you can find them and they're quality.

Now I have some nice breeder/show birds in mille fleur, black & self-blue.
I do like goldnecks, though, so it amuses me that my single weirdo leftover from the self-blue project was a 'sneaky' goldneck... Although it is possible that a white d'Uccle is one of her grandparents.

As I read back through that. it occurs to me that I'm more confusing than helpful? So here is my advice:

Go to shows in your area, see who wins, and then get contact info for the owners of the winners and see if they have any youngsters for sale. I can tell you from experience that starting with quality is quicker and a LOT less stressful than breeding to improve quality.

 

[JulieNKC]

Quote:
White are pretty, but a rock-solid PAIN to keep clean and pretty....

I started with mille fleur and never regretted it. I will always have millies!
Then I got self blue, but they were hatchery and I bred them out and back to improve them. The leg-band model is the result of my self-blue improvement project. I consider it a success!

In the midst of the self-blue project, I got a goldneck and a porcelain. Got rid of the porcelain fairly quickly. I prefer millies, and had a bad experience with a porcelain x self-blue crossing (there were no survivors). The goldneck was very light, so with the millie roo she threw me some show-winning goldnecks.

I had white for a while, too, and gave them up for the afore-mentioned reason.

I gave up goldneck in order to make room for black d'Uccles, which are GORGEOUS if you can find them and they're quality.

Now I have some nice breeder/show birds in mille fleur, black & self-blue.
I do like goldnecks, though, so it amuses me that my single weirdo leftover from the self-blue project was a 'sneaky' goldneck... Although it is possible that a white d'Uccle is one of her grandparents.

As I read back through that. it occurs to me that I'm more confusing than helpful? So here is my advice:

Go to shows in your area, see who wins, and then get contact info for the owners of the winners and see if they have any youngsters for sale. I can tell you from experience that starting with quality is quicker and a LOT less stressful than breeding to improve quality.

There's a show coming up a couple hours away in Oct, I was hoping to go then. I saw a pic of someone's black ones a few pages ago and they were very pretty. Do they have to stay out of the sun to keep their feathers from bleaching? I love the millies, they are the prettiest things I've ever seen, but all those spots and getting the color right sort of intimidate me, lol.

 

[hdowden]

This little girl is a goldneck, not a splash.
None of my birds have thrown anything with blue in 2 years now.

Are you breeding for pretty pets, or to show?
If you want to show goldnecks, find goldnecks.
If you breed a variety of colors then you can never guarantee to throw true, and be like the d'Uccle owner with award-winning millies that threw mystery chicks when bred to each other. Nothing is more frustrating to someone that shows, than have a perfectly formed bird with an unshowable color.

shes pretty

mine are mostly pets and i wounder what will pop out of my hatchery golden necks lol (i still don't know why some call them splash millies though)