Duckling Diaries: the Life and Times of a Welshie Trio

[duluthralphie]

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Originally Posted by room onthebroom


Hahaha! I forgot about the Squeeeeeeeeeing!

It Looks like Banti beat me to the Crested Cream Legbar answer. We have a full grown Cream Legbar that we got last year. She's got a great personality, lays a blueish/greenish egg & looks like she's wearing a wig. The new babies we picked up today are only a week old & don't have their hairdos on yet, but they are SO CUTE!!!

I want to name one Elvis but the kids keep vetoing it.




Now Ralphie & I have CCLs & germaphobia in common. Enya is very cute! I love their baby sized wigs.

Wow, we must be twins!

BTW I had my largest CCL hatch ever this weekend. The count was 96 last night. 16 were whites.

 

[BantyChooks]

I love her. She's sweet. I love birds.

She's a spaz, but hilarious... Only downside I've found is she seems to be sort of like the kid in every class with the constantly runny nose.... She never can manage to stay healthy.

 

[Julie Birb]

She's a spaz, but hilarious... Only downside I've found is she seems to be sort of like the kid in every class with the constantly runny nose.... She never can manage to stay healthy.

aw, fun personality for her to be that way. Makes her more lovable. What do you think is the cause of her chronic illnesses?

 

[BantyChooks]

aw, fun personality for her to be that way. Makes her more lovable. What do you think is the cause of her chronic illnesses?

Some chooks are just sickly, for some reason. Don't think it's a flock management thing as the rest of my beepers all got over it quickly.... I believe I have MG in my flock, but healthy birds can usually beat it just fine, not end up with gurgles and a runny nose for as long as she's had it.

The usual pattern of infection I see is a slight discharge and some sneezing in juvies, which clears up by the time I start laying. Some don't ever get it.

Another pro for dux- they didn't get it.

 

[BantyChooks]

MG lacks a cell wall, so they are unaffected by many common antibiotics... Denagard (tiamulin) works on the DNA of the bacteria, disabling it/putting it into stasis but the bird still has to clear it. That's why you can't eradicate it in your flock, but what I can do is keep the healthy birds and hatch chicks from them.

 

[duluthralphie]

MG lacks a cell wall, so they are unaffected by many common antibiotics... Denagard (tiamulin) works on the DNA of the bacteria, disabling it/putting it into stasis but the bird still has to clear it. That's why you can't eradicate it in your flock, but what I can do is keep the healthy birds and hatch chicks from them.

Some chooks are just sickly, for some reason. Don't think it's a flock management thing as the rest of my beepers all got over it quickly.... I believe I have MG in my flock, but healthy birds can usually beat it just fine, not end up with gurgles and a runny nose for as long as she's had it.

The usual pattern of infection I see is a slight discharge and some sneezing in juvies, which clears up by the time I start laying. Some don't ever get it.

Another pro for dux- they didn't get it.

Actually Ducks are a carrier of MG more than chickens are. They are the typhoid Mary of the poultry world. (Yeah, they push this little tidbit of truth on a person when they attend the poultry testing schools)..


Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG), M. synoviae (MS), M. cloacale (MC) and M. anatis were isolated from ducks kept in a yard in close contact with chickens that were infected with MG, MS and some other avian Mycoplasma species. MG, MS and MC were isolated also from embryonated duck eggs and from infertile duck eggs laid during the first four weeks of egg production. Infected ducks did not show clinical signs of MG or MS infection in chicken. Detectable MG and MS agglutinating antibodies were not present in duck sera. However, they were found in two yolks of 10 tested from embryonated eggs. In the haemagglutination - inhibition (HI) tests yolks from embryonated eggs yielded significantly higher (P<0.01) titres of MS antibodies than duck sera. Geometric mean value of MS HI titres in tested duck sera was 20, while those of yolks from embryonated eggs was 333. It is probably the first report concerning isolation of MS from the naturally infected ducks and furthermore, concerning isolation of MG, MS and MC from naturally infected embryonated eggs.

from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18766701

 

[BantyChooks]

Actually Ducks are a carrier of MG more than chickens are. They are the typhoid Mary of the poultry world. (Yeah, they push this little tidbit of truth on a person when they attend the poultry testing schools)..


Mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG), M. synoviae (MS), M. cloacale (MC) and M. anatis were isolated from ducks kept in a yard in close contact with chickens that were infected with MG, MS and some other avian Mycoplasma species. MG, MS and MC were isolated also from embryonated duck eggs and from infertile duck eggs laid during the first four weeks of egg production. Infected ducks did not show clinical signs of MG or MS infection in chicken. Detectable MG and MS agglutinating antibodies were not present in duck sera. However, they were found in two yolks of 10 tested from embryonated eggs. In the haemagglutination - inhibition (HI) tests yolks from embryonated eggs yielded significantly higher (P<0.01) titres of MS antibodies than duck sera. Geometric mean value of MS HI titres in tested duck sera was 20, while those of yolks from embryonated eggs was 333. It is probably the first report concerning isolation of MS from the naturally infected ducks and furthermore, concerning isolation of MG, MS and MC from naturally infected embryonated eggs.

from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18766701

Oh, they carry it, they just don't show symptoms.... Worded it wrong, sowwy.

Interesting link, thanks!

 

[BantyChooks]

Really interesting read on the cull/not to cull issue with Mycoplasma:
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=11183&page=1

(Note: I have not fact checked all the posts, so if you catch inaccuracies don't abuse me, please and thanks

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[duluthralphie]

That is the problem with waterfowl in general and dux in particular.

There are several diseases they carry that can be spread to other birds. For some reason they have developed a much better illness suppression system that makes them seem fine while spreading disease where ever they go.

The NPIP program here will look at you longer and harder if you have ducks in your flock. if they detect a disease that will test the waterfall and suspicion always falls to them. The lab here tests for PT and MG but when they have a blood sample they run a more complete screen on it. I assume that is just to give the poultry board and lab an idea what is happening in the state.

I only send in blood from one hen, Bert's Grandmother. She has had a disease in the past that sets the PT screening test into a false positive. I then have to pull a tube of blood from her and send it to the lab a week later they tell me she is fine.


When I do the AI test it is a swap of the throat and roof of the mouth. Those I do not think are tested for anything but AI. I know the state Vet thinks ducks are the root cause of AI. I have tried to argue with her that it is possibly a different source, but she is set in her ways.

 

[BantyChooks]

That is the problem with waterfowl in general and dux in particular.

There are several diseases they carry that can be spread to other birds. For some reason they have developed a much better illness suppression system that makes them seem fine while spreading disease where ever they go.

The NPIP program here will look at you longer and harder if you have ducks in your flock. if they detect a disease that will test the waterfall and suspicion always falls to them. The lab here tests for PT and MG but when they have a blood sample they run a more complete screen on it. I assume that is just to give the poultry board and lab an idea what is happening in the state.

I only send in blood from one hen, Bert's Grandmother. She has had a disease in the past that sets the PT screening test into a false positive. I then have to pull a tube of blood from her and send it to the lab a week later they tell me she is fine.


When I do the AI test it is a swap of the throat and roof of the mouth. Those I do not think are tested for anything but AI. I know the state Vet thinks ducks are the root cause of AI. I have tried to argue with her that it is possibly a different source, but she is set in her ways.

Yeah, and pigs fly!

Interesting... So, I haven't looked into it any cos I don't have turks, but the word of mouth is that they're much more sensitive to diseases and MG/MS can actually kill them, correct?