Easter Egger's and Ameraucana's = same thing

[JadeFarms]

What a handsome fellow! I have a black Ameraucana rooster that I crossed with a couple of my EE hens. They would pass for Ameraucanas I think. I call them EEs because they aren't purebred. They are black and blue like purebreds. I also crossed my roo with some Welsomers and they are obviously not Ameraucana. Usually my Ameraucana/EE crosses do not look like purebreds. Combs not right or something.

A ameraucana (blue egg layer) mixed with a welsummer (dark egg layer) should make a olive egger.

 

[ZephyrCoveFarms]

Here are real ameraucanas (black and blue)
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Where can a person buy these? Link?

 

[LadiesAndJane]

Where can a person buy these? Link?

Check with the Ameraucana Breeder's Club and they can give you a list of breeders who sell chicks and hatching eggs!

 

[JadeFarms]

Where can a person buy these? Link?

Go to deer run farm. This link should work https://www.deerrunfarmmd.com/pages/ameraucana

 

[JacinLarkwell]

An americauna is the same as an americana, they both don't exist. Are you talking about ameraucanas or araucanas?

It's another word for an EE. My way of determining if they're real or not is if they have an I in the name. If they do, they're just EEs, it's a trick to make people assume without looking closer that they're the real deal

 

[dekel18042]

If you cross a SLW (female) to a RIR (male) - are the offspring still pure Rhode Island Reds?

From what I have read, if you can take the offspring to a show and they win in a breed, then I guess they could consider them so. (Not my opinion, just something I have read.) So.....if you enter an EE in the Ameraucana class and it wins, what then?

 

[ChocolateMouse]

From what I have read, if you can take the offspring to a show and they win in a breed, then I guess they could consider them so. (Not my opinion, just something I have read.) So.....if you enter an EE in the Ameraucana class and it wins, what then?

Then you technically could call that an ameraucana for the purposes of that show, but if it doesn't breed true because it's too mixed then it's a pretty useless one.
A chicken has to breed true a certain percentage of the time (I think it's like 70?) or the APA doesn't recognize it as that breed.
If it's got enough of the traits and breeds true you just have a different line of ameraucanas now.
That just keeps herd books diverse so you don't have the horrible problems dogs do with inbreeding and serious health conditions. You can outcross to other breeds as long as you cross back enough to get it consistent and to standard again.

 

[allamerican401]

I wonder if a lot of those hatchery americana are actually ameraucana with sloppy breeding, like some slw's having a recessive straight comb instead of rose comb.

 

[Ihavesomechickens]

Okay. First of all, EEs aren’t a breed. I don’t even think they can be called a hybrid, since there is not set rules for what parent birds need to be used. A mutt sounds like a better term to me.

I have a mutt dog. If you squint, he sorta looks like a beagle. I could say he was a beagle, but anyone with half a brain cell could tell me he wasn’t. I could reply with “ But they basically have the same genes.”, and that person would probably stop talking to me. If I bred him ( he is fixed, don’t worry) to another mutt, the puppies would also be mutts. They wouldn’t breed true. If I bred him to a real beagle, the puppies still wouldn’t be beagles. If I entered him or a puppy in a dog breed competition, I wouldn’t be able to enter him as a beagle. Now, if you couldn’t tell, you replace dog with chicken, mutt with EE, and beagle with ameraucana ( I’m sorry if I spelt it wrong, I can never spell ameraucana correctly.)


I’m sorry if this went a bit off topic, but it’s a good example in my opinion.

 

[allamerican401]

Difference being that they probably are using at least some true ameraucana (not exactly rare), or can use the same mixes to create a parallel line. If it fits and breeds true, it is one. Even if it doesn't breed true it can win shows. There isn't a registry of lineage like some dogs or horses, at least as far as I know.. I don't have a horse in this race, just being technical.