Ed, the VERY naughty pony!

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought like this... I mean...a good fit is a must. Says the green rider who bought a green horse...LOL

First: New Favorite Video OF ALL TIME!
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Second: I have to agree with most of the comments. I usually don't use my reins because my horse has a very soft mouth, so it's kind of a shock to watch this kid hang on for dear life... I use my legs very lightly because he's got soft sides, too. I put a man on his back with heavy legs and well, I've yet to meet a cowboy who likes my horse.
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Too sensitive, my hiney.

As a response to the quote: It's okay. My friend gave me a free 4 year old when my other horse foundered. I trained him for about 6 months and then put my mother (who'd never ridden a horse before and was in her late 40's) on him. So I understand all about a green rider on a green horse. Now where's that evil smiley?
 
For 6, Ross has an amazing hand and seat ... oh, well, I have seen adults who could not do what he did and with dignity and grace!

Nice job young man ...
 
Having been around ponies and kids many years I don't think Ed is UNHAPPY and UNCOMFORTABLE and TRYING TO TELL THE CHILD SOMETHING. The kid isn't doing anything to hurt him, but he isn't effective or in control, that is why the pony is acting up. He's not hurting the mouth or pulling on the reins, they're in a loop. But he 'got no leg' (ie, the pony doesn't listen when he uses his legs - his legs are ineffective, like most kids his age and size).

And no, honestly, I'm not one of the ones that thinks Ed is 'funny' or 'cute'. I don't actually think it's funny, entertaining or cute. I don't ever think this kind of thing is 'funny' or 'cute'. I don't know why other people do.

Kids get hurt on ponies that way. Other kids quit wanting to ride. We can laugh only because the kid did not get hurt. If the kid went off and got stepped on on the face, it would be different. And fact is, kids, just like adults, get hurt when they fall off. Sometimes they do, somethings they don't. It is just pure luck if they don't.

But I also don't think experiences like that 'make good riders'. At all. I think that it makes kids have bad habits on a horse. Or they quit. I don't think it makes good riders at all.

I think what makes good riders of kids is that at THAT age, they have well schooled, kick n go ponies.

They can get on the rough stuff when they are eleven (in some cases), twelve, or thirteen, and have some leg strength and some balance, and some attention span.

What happens is, ponies get jumped over and over, and they DO get sour. Not because they are dying in agony in most cases, but because someone older doesn't train on them and make sure they are obedient. And every time they stop, they don't get any punishment.

The kid just sits there, gives a half hearted tap or kick. Why? Because kids have no idea of how to train a pony, even if you tell them how, they don't react that quick or remember to do things, they have no leg or balance at that age.

So the pony gets worse. The answer is of course never let it get to that point. Give the kid a bat and teach him to use it on the shoulder. If that doesn't work, stand in the ring with a longe whip or jump on a longe, or regularly have a trainer get on the pony and put a limit to jumping. Or put him up on something else, or don't jump AT ALL til he's bigger. He won't be ruined if he doesn't jump til later.

When a pony acts like that, it's time for a trainer to get on them and take it out of them. When a kid is that little they just are very ineffective at correcting this (as the video shows).

But it's probably also important to supervise the kids, and if they can't be effective, they need to be put on a different horse right away, or the situation needs to be changed, rather than getting the one they can't handle, a little too smart.

Once a pony or horse learns to act like that it is awful hard to get it out of them. And it can make it very tough to find them a home in the future, should the need arise. Most ponies that size need to be kid friendly or it is awful hard to get them a home.
 
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Welsummer I could not have said it any better.
I have ridden and owned horses all of my 50 yrs of life. I do not see anything funny or entertaining in this video either. This is sad because this is why the ponies get a bad rap, they are spoiled. So I say no not Ed the naughty pony, naughty pony owners.
 
The lady is crazy running and yelling at the pony while the kids face is dangling on the ground by its front feet and the pony turns and goes away from them more. Also not every trainer or adult can get on a pony there is a weight limit for ponies unless you want to get bucked off yourself. Ask how I know.....
 
In my husbands own words, I hope for the parents sake that CPS does not see this video. This is not cute, or funny or a pony being a pony. This is an untrained evil little pony with a poor little kid that can barely ride. This is NOT fair to the pony or the child. The pony LAID DOWN and tried to ROLL on the kid. The child EASLY could be killed on this pony. Do the parents and trainer not see how insanely dangerous this is? Quite honestly ponies with this sort of attitude are not and will never be children’s ponies. For every evil little monster that wants to LIE DOWN AND ROLL on a child there are kind sweet tempered ever patient ponies that are getting sent to slaughter. The pony needs serious training by a skilled rider and the poor child needs lessons on how to walk and jog on a safe kind well tempered animal LONG before he even attempts jumping.


My niece and my son are learning to ride on a 16 hand 1200 hundred pound QH. Why such a big guy? Because he is patient, ever tolerant, kind, forgiving and nearly perfect in every way. The kid gets off balance and he stops. Period stops. They cry he stops, they yell he stops, ANYTHING WRONG AND HE STOPS. This horse would take the beating of a life time and let a kid rip and tear on his reins all darn day and be quite gentle and stand there and take some more. There are tons of horses out there just like him, they may not be as gorgeous pretty or as perfectly well trained, but there are kind wonderful children’s animals out there getting send to slaughter every single darn day. Why put your kid threw a pony like that when there are so many good ones to be had for free or pennies?
 
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TOUGHEST KID WITH THE WICKEDEST PONY = PRICELESS, HYSTERICAL VIDEO FOOTAGE!
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OH, AND IF THAT TOUGH LITTLE BUGGER ROSS, SURVIVES ED... I HOPE HE GETS TO TAKE HIM TO AUCTION AND SWAP HIM FOR A PONY WITH A SOUL!
 
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hi everyone. i am Mandy ( ross's nan .) firstly let me explain why i put the naughty clips together... it was to show the trainer where ed was going to be schooled of the problems we had with ed, he could go months not putting a foot wrong, and they needed to see that he could be naughty as alot of the time ed was fab. Ed was a fab lead rein pony and would follow you like a little puppy. Ross did not want to stay on lead rein and so he started to ride in paddock and got the feel of trot and canter while on a long lunge line. he picked it up really quick, and of course no longer wanted to be on lunge. Ross would then try to get ed to canter on his own steam, but being the stubbun pony that he could be would not move. ross would kick kick but no avail, ross's legs were not below the saddle. so we tried a small crop, all was fine for some time and ross had great fun... you are right what you said about boys not wanting to learn your way just there way... and all he wanted was to have fun... all was good till ross got better at riding and he was telling ed where to go, and no your not going that way, basicly ross had started to take control and ed couldnt do or go where he wanted.. that was when we realised something not quite right with ed, and when ross would kick kick to get him to go he would buck ross off, so they would then have a battle of wills... ross would not let ed get away with it and if ross wanted him to go to oneway or do something ed would get him off..... he tried using the crop and ed paid attention, but after a while he was not having it and so every time ross used the crop he would have a tatrum, so ross stopped using the crop but that just made ed worse, he new he didnt have to do what was asked of him and that was that and no matter how much ross kicked he would not do what ross was asking, ross had a great idea that if he has a crop in his hand ed would think he would use it.... so if you watch the parts of ed being good you will notice that ross is only showing him the crop.... this worked fine for some time and ross was able to get on with riding and learning to go over some jumps too. it maybe wrong but ed would just follow another pony and fly over the jumps letting ross feel the way of jumping without having to put up with any battles of ed not wanting to do as ross wanted.... i got ed's back checked out, got teeth checked, got saddle checked, all was ok, so i sent ed off to a trainer for reschooling for 2 weeks, i showed her the video of ed being naughty and ed being good, so she new what they had to deal with. they had girls who were very able riders... he got the first girl on the floor, she had no crop she used her legs.. she got back on, and after that they had just little problems, the odd buck and tatrum.. he was schooled to a good standard. we went and collected our new ed from school and brought him home...... he was alot better but would still have battles with ross, but this time ross was winning a few more than ed. i did get a trainer to yard to but he could not find a problem with ed at all and said he was a cracking little pony... i tried on many ocassions to get ross a new pony, but ross would not have that, he would just cry and say he loves ed, he cried more about the idea of letting ed go than any of his falls and mishaps... what could i do... i just had to try and let ross have fun on ed and make sure i was always there with him.... and he ALWAYS had his protection gear on.... things were good most of the time... ed would still sometimes have a bad attitude day, and on those days we just got through it.... he would only ride for 10 mins so they always ended on a good note... ross knew if ed was going to be naughty as soon as he got on him, and like i said he would just ride for a small amount of time and end with no fights... next thing i notice was ross had grown alot, and he could do with a bigger pony, it took me sometime for ross to agree and when he new ed was going to be trained to pull a cart he thought it was coooool... he went to a lovely home, the new owners new that ed was not a riding pony... he would be fine on a lead rein, but under no circumstances must he be allowed off lead rein with a rider.... they fully understood that, but wanted to train him to cart.... the back groung of ed was that he was not cut till he was about 5 and so had kept the neck and shoulder muscels, pulling a little cart would have been no problems.... as some of you may know we then bought pip.... it took a while for ross to bond as he missed ed so much.... but with pip he has never used a crop, and he has always had full control of pip even though he did look like a little dot on pip.... pip responses with leg, and ross has riding/jumping lessons on pip.... so everyone now you have the full story of that little "nuts" ed. and he was at times a right little "nuts".... but at no time did he ever deserve to be pusing up daisys or in a can of dog food. he was ed and ross loved him, i can fully understand why you thought the worste.... i put the film on you tube to show the girls at our new yard what ed was like, cos when you tell people they just dont believe you.... yes he was a little "nuts" and when they watched the clips they then realised that there little pony was an angel....... i have put on ed being good just to try and show he was not all bad. i hope this clears up any idea that this film was put together for entertainment.... it was put together years ago to show the trainer his bad behaviour.... thank you for letting me say my piece..... and i hope you will all understand now that you have the bigger picture...
kind regards mandy
 
may i also add that i dont want ross to be a fantastic rider he was the one who wanted to ride, i just wanted him to have fun, and believe me he does, he has riding lessons on pip beause pip listens to him..... ed did teach him alot.... the other day he was out riding ( i was following) and he went past a gate, a large dog jumped up barking, even though pip is 100% it made him jump and and move sharply to the left, anyone eles would have been off on the other side, but ross had full control and stayed calm....... ed taught ross that they are animals with minds of there own and to expect the unexpected, and ross did and is always prepared for anything.... i have seen kids put on bomb proof ponies (i dont believe they exsist) and not even have a hat on, only for the parents say "o its ok the pony wont do anything, and then walk around plastic bag flies up horses jumps and kid comes off wth not even a hat on.... guess you can guess out come... child is hurt...
 

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