EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Chaos18]

OMG glad someone is more crazy than me!


Hi Silver!!! back at ya!!



looks good, I always pressure cook heart and make a gravy and mash taters, I love Brussels sprouts but its whatever the others will eat thats made lol
Thanks Whites!

I do, but if you could explain it I would love to read about it yes??????

Wait, Hold ma beer

@BantyChooks
  you catching all Kats links ?

I've never tried it pressure cooked before. Always had it fried medium with shrooms and onions, usually over rice.

 

[FaerieChicken]

awwwww

hugs!!!!

Just make sure your holding steady temps even in the middle of the night, you know that a still air (no fan) needs higher temp than fan model
you know humidity is NOT a set number, its a tool to get the correct weight loss in the eggs.
You calibrated!!!!! YAYAYYAYA your a step ahead of my first incubation! lol
You put heat sinks in the bator to hold temps steadier?
you know shipped eggs need treated differently
You know the more you can turn the eggs the better!
Try not to let temps go under 99.5 or over 102.
Have a back up plan if you loose electric!
You have the notes section bookmarked correct?

LETS DO THIS!!!!!!

Ok, no i haven't yet calibrated the external combo unit, can I? It is an all in one, so would i just do each calibration seperately, Hygrometer and Thermometer?

What are heat sinks. Honestly, it has been tedious to try navagating those note pages with my cell phone. I am at work now, maybe I can print them out!

Thankfully I am not doing shipped eggs yet, I am still trying to figure out how to ship my eggs out. Luckily @MotorcycleChick forwareded me your article "How to ship eggs the Sally Sunshine Way" so I am in the process of gathering the rest of the supplies I need to ship her some more eggs as the first ones ended up scrambled!~

The 4250 Farm Innovators incubator came with a fan, automatic egg turner and a candler! Its actually pretty neat with having such a big window to see your eggs, and it doesn't have the heating element around the entire hood either, I think it is with the fan some how.

I think calibrating is the one thing that is really helping my procrastination, perhaps I bought the wrong unit:

CocoGo Digital Thermometer Hygrometer Probe For Egg Hatching Chick Incubator
This LCD digital Thermometer & hygrometer has a 1.5m long probe, which can test temperature and humidity of some special places, it was widely used in Aquarium, Poultry, Reptile, Incubator, Greenhouse and etc.
Set probe to display the hygro-temperature at the location of the probe.
Measuring Humidity Range: 10%RH ~ 99%RH
Humidity Accuracy: +5/-5%; Humidity Display Resolution:1%RH
Note:Only read ℃, can't read F. Please ALWAYS calibrate a thermometer before use it.

Even though it says to calibrate the thermometer, it didn't come with instructions on how to do it! But I am glad I got the one in C vs F, cause from what I understand, C is more accurate for incubation.

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[Sally Sunshine]

NO FAN = NEED HIGHER TEMP!
STEADY TEMPS after CALIBRATION = A MUST! (try heat sinks!)
HUMIDITY IS NOT A SET NUMBER! Its a TOOL to get the correct weight loss in the eggs! READ below! CALIBRATE Hygrometers too!
SHIPPED EGGS = CHANGE OF PLANS!
TURNING = ITS IMPORTANT! (3x is MINIMUM!)
HAVE A BACK UP PLAN IN CASE YOU LOOSE ELECTRIC
FRESH EGGS? WASHED EGGS? how to collect is important!


You have the notes section bookmarked correct? NOTES LINKS & Informational POST LINKS











Questions w/ Answers for you!

where they shipped or your own eggs/local eggs? Shipped Eggs = Change Of Plans! post #53845

How old were the eggs at set?

How old is your flock?

They were stored and turned cool conditions?

Have you misted or washed the eggs?



COLLECTING, WASHING & EGG STORAGE

Washing, Cuticle, Sweating eggs post #63837
Digital Egg Scale - Accurate Humidity Measurement and Egg Sizing HERE
ZONES OF COLD INJURY fro EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT post #36213
PULLET EGGS??? post #41984 UNDER CONSTRUCTION
DOUBLE YOLKERS NOT suggested but they can hatch with assistance post #46649
BIRTH DEFECTS CONVERSATION AND INFO ON WORMERS!! post #25707 post #25706
Abstract DIPPING EGGS IN VITAMIN C post #33828
Pre-Incubation Warming of Chicken Eggs post #65812
Egg Quality: (Click to show)
Egg Quality:

• Egg defects and CORRECTIVE steps, detailed information Click HERE
• Optimum Egg Quality from your Flock: click HERE
• EGG Quality Click HERE

Fertility: (Click to show)
Fertility:

• IS IT FERTILE? Many images see post #43324
• Managing Fertility click HERE
• Several Reasons Why Your Hens May Stop Laying Eggs click HERE
• Winter Blues w/the Roos, why are my eggs infertile ugh starting post #1986
• Reproductive Physiology of the Hen post #40628
• HOW long does a ROO SPERM REMAIN IN HEN post #40628

• Polyspermy is typical in birds. Several sperm enter the germinal disc region post #40644
• Double fertilization spots? post #5991

Example 57 out of 126 were declared fertile.

Hatch Rates...

Example 50 of the 57 fertile eggs hatched the % hatch=

What bator are you using?

It has been fumigated/cleaned?



Cleaning Incubator and Equipment

FUMIGATION OF HATCHING EGGS AND EQUIPMENT post #48689
CLEAN INCUBATOR BEFORE AND AFTER USE post #48689

Turner or no turner?



TURNING ITS IMPORTANT

HOW and Why To TURN Eggs TURN MORE THAN 3 times a day!! post #22178
Turning until day 18 post #51410
UNDERSTANDING the CAM ~chorio-allantoic membrane post #22177

Incubated Air cell Upright or horizontal?

How do you have your thermos leveled in the bator?

Fan or no Fan? You know temps should be different for Fan vs still air models?



INCUBATION TEMPERATURES

READ TEMPS SECTION HERE: post #9068 Hatching Eggs 101
Incubators with fans and without fans need to run at DIFFERENT TEMPS! post #9068
ADD a LEGO to your dial of cheap styro bator to make minor adjustments! GENIUS post #38133
What is the maximum and minimum range of temp I can go before killing the chicks? post #12473
ZONES OF COLD INJURY fro EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT post #36213
HAVE A PLAN IN CASE YOU LOOSE ELECTRIC ITS THE SEASON! see post #522
What to do when you find a HIGH TEMPS in Bator post #7061
10/13 day old embryos begin to produce excess heat in the incubator post #27240

You calibrated thermo hygros and know not to rely on the one that came with the bator?

AGAIN...You have more than one thermo hygro and they had been calibrated?

You know that you should not use the vent holes to adjust humidity?



THERMOMETERS, HYGROMETERS & CALIBRATION

Celsius to Fahrenheit (ºC to ºF) conversion calculator click HERE
Thermo/hygro suggestions post #13998
Brinsea Incubator Thermometers click HERE
Strombergs Thermometers click HERE Hygrometers click HERE Digital Thermo/Hygros click Here
Hova-Bator GQF Incubator Thermometer / Hygrometer (Wet Bulb) 3018 post #32892
HEAT SINKS/ Stones/Pebbles ADD THEM TO STYRO! post #43903

Calibration is a MUST: HOW TO CALIBRATE post #9068

VENTILATION (OXYGEN)

Hatching at High Altitudes post #37908
O2 deprivation to day 10 of incubation followed by regular oxygen concentrations leads to stronger chicks post #33815
NEVER USE VENT holes as a means to Control HUMIDITY especially during HATCH DAYS!


You realize humidity is NOT a set number just a tool to get the correct weight loss in the egg?


You understand the majority of people for standard hatching eggs run the first 7 days 25-30% humidity (possibly 35%for shipped eggs) and adjusted from there for weight loss?

You understand that you can in fact candle every two days after day 7 to just keep a closer eye on weight loss so you dont need to make major changes later on?

Try to add water above in containers and not in the troughs until lockdown?


HUMIDITY Humidity is NOT a set number!

Its a tool to get the correct weight loss in the egg! post #7068 see Hatching Eggs 101

WHY do we need less humidity to get the best weight loss for colored hatching eggs during incubation? post #36320
KEEPING MOLD and BACTERIAL from growing in water WELLS during incubation post #1644
Humidity pumps DIY ETC post #79960
TIPS n TRICKS to raising humidity in incubators post #42512 Humidity pumps DIY ETC post #79960


AGAIN....You understand humidity is NOT a set number, most of us begin incubation 25-35% the first week and then adjust as needed per air cell growth/weight loss.


LOCKDOWN, DAY 18, CANDLES, PIPS, ZIPS

*IMPORTANT INFO= TIMELINES PIPS ZIPS!!! & MARKING AIR CELLS DAY 18, DRAW DOWN, INTERNAL PIP, EXTERNAL PIP, and ZIPPING post #35770


DAY 18 CANDLE IMAGES/VIDEOS: post #41176
FIVE VIDEOS show Draw Down and Internals post #44701
DAY 18 DIS CANDLES post #43401
Incubation CHICK FIRST AID KIT Supplies post #71640
911- INCUBATION & CHICK EMERGENCIES! (Click to hide)

911- INCUBATION & CHICK EMERGENCIES!

Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching - Click HERE
DUCK ASSISTING VIA CANDLES post #79130
NOPE she is not ready for you to assist yet! post #24835 now is she? post #24850
MALPOSITIONS /PIPS WRONG END are the first to pip and the last DIS after hatch post #19606
Malposition (pipped wrong end) chick most times will hatch! VIDEO post #22241
A WRONG END PIP IS BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL Pip! post #518454 VIDEO HATCHING post #54642
Casportspony Scovy malpositions assists post #43908
STUFF OOZING from pip begin post #19606
Images normal chick pip position post #19606
STUCK ZIPPING WHAT DO I DO? bottom of post #35770
YES a chick can chirp when its not pipped internally! post #20506
Heathers Call DUCK assist post #43902
It has a bump on its head! What The Heck Is A Vaulted Skull? post #46616

CHICKS Wet? Sticky? Stuck? Yellow Gel? What did I do Wrong? (Click to hide)
CHICKS Wet? Sticky? Stuck? Yellow Gel? What did I do Wrong? post #25379

Swollen abdomen? A WET chick? or infection post #24810
Eggtopsy possible Sticky chick post #35087
Eggs UNHATCHED at end of Incubation (Click to hide)
Eggs UNHATCHED at end of Incubation

Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching - Click HERE
I HAVE EGGS LEFT UNHATCHED NOW WHAT? post #25223
EGGTOPSYS & REMINDERS IF YOU WANT US TO HELP SEE post #2140 post #42654 post #44923 post #45013 post #54834
Pipped but dead post #47432
Normal hatching position and the six recognized malpositions Images: click here
Trouble Shooting Failures with Egg Incubation
http://msucares.com/poultry/reproductions/trouble.html
Hatchability Problem Analysis http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00008570/00001
Troubleshootting Incubation http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8127.pdf
This is also a great pdf with pics: paste link in browser search: CLICK HERE
Eggtopsy: What happened to my egg? https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/363717/eggtopsy-what-happened-to-my-egg-graphic-pictures
Effects of Nutrition on Infertility, Embryo Mortality and Hatchability
POOR INCUBATION RESULTS post #20480

What Went Wrong During Incubation could it be the flock? or Incubation? ​

post #1825
Signs of Deficiency in the Embryo & Poultry Vits Oz/Sal Diary Thread post #13719
Effects of nutrition on infertility, embryo mortality and hatchability. click Here
Some causes of EARLY CHICK MORTALITY post #17586 ~ http://www.poultry.uga.edu/extension/documents/French-Livability.pdf
Possible causes of deaths after day 18 post #57322


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[Sally Sunshine]

sorry needed to update that here wouldnt let me update in incu thread

 

[Chaos18]

Cause it's locked silly.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: I'd love to get a crack at a muley; don't suppose I ever will
BANG!!!

Quote: I love it that way yummy

 

[Chaos18]

BANG!!!

I love it that way yummy

Do you cut it up at all or just toss it in whole?

 

[kwhites634]

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I do, but if you could explain it I would love to read about it yes??????

.I'm certainly not the one to be giving an explanation. I've seen it done, but I'm certainly not expert at it. Those who are really good at it can pretty much tell how many buns are in the oven; I'm not even close to being in that league. All I've ever done is lightly compress the lower belly on both sides simultaneously, feeling for solid masses, and even then, I've only done it maybe 3 times in my life. I can't even be sure that what little I've done was done correctly.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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[Sally Sunshine]

this is the one? dont overthink calibration its not hard!!
Calibration is a MUST: HOW TO CALIBRATE post #9068



do you have an indoor room thermostat you can check it with?