Wow just wow. Hope you're getting some rest now. I'm done.I honestly don't remember, and I seem to recall there was some controversy (meaning not everyone agrees, so YMMV), but it was enough for me to go from wanting to order one to looking up the old fashioned ones instead. (Not that I have bees anyway... yet...) Congrats, and YUM!!!!!!! I gotta try that... Oh, I realize that, I was just helping to clarify why it was forbidden. When my vet offered me Baytril for Dumbledore after his dog attack, I had to sign a paper attesting that he would never enter the food chain. I won't pry , but for you and her. Oh, wow. Sounds like he got badly injured. Congrats on your white CLs!!! Oh, wow. That's so much scarier looking than I imagined when you texted me. And he's on the wrong side of the fence for catching him. I'd whoop his a**. (Then again, that may be why I'm not married. ) Yeah, it's hard to be staring at them and WILLING them to pip (and keeping your hands off). I have found that it's a lot easier on me to ensure that hatch day is a work day. I like coming home to a 'bator full of chicks (it's also fun to wake up to it). Sometimes if I am home I'll purposely go out in the yard or something to stop staring at them. (Not that that helps very much. ) OK, I really AM sunburned on my face. A lot. My brain just didn't process the need for the big cowboy hat while doing yard work in February. @meltel , sending you virtual Vernors: - Ant Farm