Efficacy and Timing of Application of Pyrethrins Bug Repellent

[LamarshFish]

I have racing pigeons, and originally posted this in the pigeon section but didn't get enough responses so I thought I'd check here since I know chicken folks use this stuff as well.

Does anybody know how often you can (or need to) apply a Pyrethrins type bug spray, such as CV-80D, to birds? I want to use this stuff on both my loft and birds, but have no idea how often it should be applied to maintain proper efficacy to repel, as well as how often is safe for my birds when applied directly to them.

Also wondering if the efficacy of the product when used directly on the bird, or time period for which it is effective, changes if the bird gets wet from something like a bath.

Thanks

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/country-vet-instant-knockdown-185-oz?cm_vc=IOPDP2

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I have racing pigeons, and originally posted this in the pigeon section but didn't get enough responses so I thought I'd check here since I know chicken folks use this stuff as well.

Does anybody know how often you can (or need to) apply a Pyrethrins type bug spray, such as CV-80D, to birds? I want to use this stuff on both my loft and birds, but have no idea how often it should be applied to maintain proper efficacy to repel, as well as how often is safe for my birds when applied directly to them.

Also wondering if the efficacy of the product when used directly on the bird, or time period for which it is effective, changes if the bird gets wet from something like a bath.

Thanks

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/country-vet-instant-knockdown-185-oz?cm_vc=IOPDP2

If your active ingredient is Permethrin... ONLY use when needed... using as a preventative just helps pest build resistance.

That being said... I believe if you are treating for mites you need to retreat in 7 days and 10 days for lice to break the life cycle. But if you have nits, I don't believe they will just go away even if the spray was effective at killing them... that part I am learning still. It is said to have residual for a period of time dependent upon what species you are treating for, usually on the label. And I believe it is water resistant once dry.

I mostly only apply directly to the bird. But sometimes, roosts, walls, nests, coop floor. When applying to the bird... it is very safe and effective and doesn't require withdrawal time from eggs, yes I am talking chickens. But some pest never leave their portion of the body like head lice... so I treat by doing a small spritz under each wing, right below the vent, and to the nape of the neck at the base of the head... making sure feathers are parted so it hits the skin directly.

This is the product I use...

You can buy permethrin (synthetic pyrethrin) in different names like Gordon's or Martins', and some are concentrate.

I don't know the ins and outs of your product. I personally would not like trying to use aerosol spray on my birds would probably freak them out a little more. The bottle pictured lasted me 2 years with 82+ birds, 2 large goats and 3 large dogs. It is labeled for a lot of uses as well and was originally bought for mosquitoes. But worked great on the poultry lice.

We have had no adverse reactions... and to me, organic or synthetic... poison is poison. So this is very affordable at $8 for a 32 oz bottle. Usually in the equine section.

I notice your product listed has another ingredient that I'm not familiar with and it also seem a little pricey in comparison. Doesn't look labeled for use on the birds... and so I wouldn't do it.

Hope this is helpful!

 

[Kiki]

 

[LamarshFish]

Hope this is helpful!

Thanks! I am using it to repel bugs that seem to irritate my pigeons, such as mosquitoes and gnats. Parasites that want to live on my birds are taken care of by products I put in their bath water, which is very effective since pigeons LOVE taking baths, and will take a bath pretty much any time you offer it, so when I put the anti-parasitic treatment in their bath water they sort of treat themselves.

I haven't decided whether I even want to apply it to my birds directly, but will certainly be applying it to the loft, nest boxes, perches and such.

 

[Kiki]

I am not familiar with the CV-80D product. Here is another product, that I use, that is labeled for poultry. I use it to keep both flies and mosquitos away.
MARTIN'S Horse & Stable


eta:
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/PermGen.html

 

[EggSighted4Life]

so when I put the anti-parasitic treatment in their bath water they sort of treat themselves.

Do they drink it too?

 

[LamarshFish]

Do they drink it too?

Pigeons usually take a few sips of bath water before bathing in it. This particular product, if used properly, is safe for them to drink, although sometimes it makes their droppings watery. I am pretty sure the product is nothing more than salts and borax mixed together. Another product I use in their bath water has pine oil as a main ingredient, also safe for them to drink. Wouldn't want them sipping from it daily though. I use it a few times a month.

Links to the products below, in case you are curious:

https://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/pest-control/7031-dr-pigeons-bath-salts

https://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/pest-control/5022-bath-salt