Eggbound hen

Hi. Apologies, I have been posting on several threads with very similar symptoms and it's difficult to keep track of what each person has tried and what they haven't done and the exact circumstances of each one.
The green poop is probably bile because she is not eating enough/anything or it may indicate an infection. It is not a good sign. Have you inserted a gloved, lubed finger during the bathing in Epsom salts and tried to feel for an egg and gently help work it out or at least open things up so that more poop can come out. The problem with egg binding, apart from it being very draining is that it backs up the digestive system and puts the hen at risk of infection in both the bowel and the oviduct as well as possibly rupturing the gut. The only thing I can suggest at this stage is to take her to a vet if you can or if not, try inserting a finger into her vent to work the obstruction out. It may be that it is a tumour and not an egg though, which is something hens are prone to. At this stage I would say you have nothing to lose, so be brave and give it a go. Don't go further in than the second knuckle of your finger. If it is an egg, it should only be an inch or two in. The vent will fork an inch or so inside and the oviduct will come in from above and the bowel straight ahead. Do this in the warm water and work by feel rather than trying to look at what you are doing.
Beware it could get messy with poop if she is seriously backed up.

Good luck. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Barbara
 
Thank you very much for a answer I will try this and see how it goes. I appreciate the quick answers.
 
Hi. Apologies, I have been posting on several threads with very similar symptoms and it's difficult to keep track of what each person has tried and what they haven't done and the exact circumstances of each one.
The green poop is probably bile because she is not eating enough/anything or it may indicate an infection. It is not a good sign. Have you inserted a gloved, lubed finger during the bathing in Epsom salts and tried to feel for an egg and gently help work it out or at least open things up so that more poop can come out. The problem with egg binding, apart from it being very draining is that it backs up the digestive system and puts the hen at risk of infection in both the bowel and the oviduct as well as possibly rupturing the gut. The only thing I can suggest at this stage is to take her to a vet if you can or if not, try inserting a finger into her vent to work the obstruction out. It may be that it is a tumour and not an egg though, which is something hens are prone to. At this stage I would say you have nothing to lose, so be brave and give it a go. Don't go further in than the second knuckle of your finger. If it is an egg, it should only be an inch or two in. The vent will fork an inch or so inside and the oviduct will come in from above and the bowel straight ahead. Do this in the warm water and work by feel rather than trying to look at what you are doing.
Beware it could get messy with poop if she is seriously backed up.

Good luck. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Barbara
I inserted my finger too about the second knuckle and felt no egg? So she's not egg bound? What can I do to help her heal? If anything ? Is there anyway for me to know that she has a tumor?
 
It could be that it is a soft shelled/shell less egg.... they are much harder to pass and obviously wont feel hard like an egg. Was there any restriction/obstruction of the passage? Could you feel where the oviduct comes in?
Did you try to open up the passage to allow excrement to pass more freely? Did she manage to pass some more?
It's so hard to figure out what is going on when you are thousands of miles away and all you can see is a flat screen with words and your fingers only feel a keyboard. I wish I could help you more but I'm struggling to think of anything else, I'm sorry. Keeping her warm and hydrated. Have you tried holding her in your arms on her back as a previous poster suggested to see if that change of angle helps to get an egg out, if there is in fact an egg bound.
If she has an infection then an antibiotic would help but I know nothing about them to advise. @casportpony is the expert on medication. Hopefully she will be along to give you advice that I cannot.
I feel like I am abandoning you but I am keeping my fingers crossed for you both.

Good luck.

Barbara
 
Hi, I'm sorry to hear she's not doing well :(. It almost sounds like ascites to me, the symptoms in my experience have been green watery poo, respiratory distress, and a swollen tight abdomen. The condition is when fluid builds up in the body cavity as a result of cancer or organ failure. There isn't a cure, but you can drain the fluid off with a syringe. This gives them relief and can prolong their lives. I have a hen with ascites and she has responded well to the treatment. I hope this was helpful, I'll be praying for you guys! Ps: have you noticed any Oder coming from her? The ascites smell is pretty distinctive. I don't mean to pull you every which way, I know it's frustrating when there is no clear cut answer.
 
I will have to message her thanks so much for the advice. I did in fact put her on her back and massage the abdomen to see if that could help but had no result. I did not I did not try to open up the passage with fear of hurting her she did release some yellow substance when I did it. I'm going to try these things again. I've never had to do this before so I'm doing my best to do it all correctly. It did feel constricted when I got to about my second knuckle.
 
Hi, I'm sorry to hear she's not doing well :(. It almost sounds like ascites to me, the symptoms in my experience have been green watery poo, respiratory distress, and a swollen tight abdomen. The condition is when fluid builds up in the body cavity as a result of cancer or organ failure. There isn't a cure, but you can drain the fluid off with a syringe. This gives them relief and can prolong their lives. I have a hen with ascites and she has responded well to the treatment. I hope this was helpful, I'll be praying for you guys!
Thanks you very much for your input I will have to do more research on ascites. Are you able to release the fluid with a syringe on your own or do u need a vet? Also how long has your hen lived with ascites ?
 
I do it myself, there are lots of good videos on YouTube about how to do it. I have someone hold her so her abdomen is pointed toward the ground. I clean the area with rubbing alcohol and run the syringe and needle in alcohol a few times before inserting on one side. At first i tried not to take to much out, I would suggest a third of a cup. I've worked up to double that. I'm not at home currently so Im trying to remember what size needle I use. I know it seems scary but in my experience it's been quick and easy. Hope this helps, keep us posted!
 
I'm hoping that tagging casportpony as I have in the above post will alert her if she is available.
Ascites is usually associated with internal laying or heart failure. Below is a link to a thread that I have just been contributing to on the subject. I would not say that your hen is significantly distended for it to be the problem even if she has ascites but since she laid an egg 4 days, it's not likely to be ascites. You will see photos of the hen being drained and xrays of her that show just how swollen she is. Yes you can drain them yourself with a No.16 gauge needle, but you need to cleanse the area well first with anti bacterial agent and be reasonably confident that it is fluid (ascites) before attempting it. I would be reluctant with your hen just because there is no huge tight swollen mass hanging down between the legs like you see with the chicken in that thread.... which is pretty typical of ascites.

The yellow that you saw come out of your hen during/after your internal investigation..... was it egg yolk coloured or more mustard coloured like poop?
 

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