Eggnog Just died - Should I treat the entire flock.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by firerunner, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. firerunner

    firerunner Out Of The Brooder

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    This morning Eggnog was acting strange, I thought maybe she was getting ready to lay an egg except she wasnt in a nest. She is 1.5 years old Female Delaware.

    Around 1 she looked ok, so I thought nothing of it.

    At 6 she was SICK, We quickly scooped her up and notice fluid coming out of her mouth. It was almost snotty like (sorry for the description cant really explain it any other way) We brought her in checked her over she felt fine didnt feel egg bound, crop looked good and she had good color, no funny odor, no sores (she is molting however so she was missing a few feathers)

    Accept she was fading fast. I quickly dosed her with Cipro but within 30 mins she had what appeared to be a seizure and passed away.


    So my question..any idea what this might have been? Pneumonia? There was alot of fluid coming from her mouth and it was murky, runny yet thick almost pancake syrup thick.

    Sighs

    And the rest of my flock. Do I start them on Sulmet? Everyone LOOKS fine, poop looks fine, eating well, drinking well. So should I start them on anything or take a wait and see approach?

    Are their vitamins I can put my flock on?


    thanks for your help today I am so sad.
     
  2. iwiw60

    iwiw60 Overrun With Chickens

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    So very sorry for your loss...it's never easy.
     
  3. firerunner

    firerunner Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks it is hard and I have had a terrible two months

    June 25 my Beloved Bella Dog died in my arms at 7:15 Am, she was diagnosied 20 days before with a tumor on her heart, there was nothing we could do.

    July 7 Donnatello one of our rescue turtle (we have 11) died, she was ten years old..no idea why

    AUg 7 Einstein Died - He was a rescue mockingbird and I know he was sick but he pulled on my heart strings. And yes we are licensed rehabbers but ever since Bella Died it just seems that each death is like a nail in my heart,,and each death is causing me to get more and more depressed

    and The today Eggnog died. And I feel like gee I should have took note thi morning when I thought she was sick..but I didnt, excuses, Zip needed feed and the three baby birds needed feed and the squirrels..and ARGH.


    So now I am not sure whether to treat the entire flock or take a wait and see attitude. Today at their nightly closing, every looked good, good color, good wattles, normal breathing all standing on two feet, etc.

    So what would every one do??

    Wait and see or start cipro or sulmet ?
     
  4. mightymax

    mightymax Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm so very sorry for your lose(s) !!!

    I hate to say this because normally I am soooo against giving antibiotics when there is no obvious need, but, in this case, I'm going to go against my own advice and say, I'd dose the whole flock. The reason being is that you have suffered such incredible devastation already, I wouldn't want to be the one to add to it by saying 'don't dose them'. Also, in your account of Eggnog's demise, it appears that she went downhill very fast and with little advance notice, so I might be afraid that others would soon follow. Hence, I'd dose. But that may just be my empathy kicking in, since I would not usually advise this...IDK...
    Good luck and I'll keep you in my prayers.
     
  5. firerunner

    firerunner Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you I think we are leaning towards dosing everyone. ALl I have done is sat here and cry. Hubby keeps holding me

    argh I just need a couple of months with nothing dying you know.
     
  6. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    I have had chickens just drop dead at that age, and it was nothing contagious. It happens pretty often, and may be due to heart, liver, or kidney disease, or from being egg bound. The last symptoms you noted are very common when you see a chicken in the throws of death--their crop contents can spill out, and they can have a seizure or a twisted neck from a lack of oxygen as the body shuts down. If you haven't buried her, I would refrigerate her body (not freeze,) and in the morning ship it to your state veterinarian for a necropsy to find the cause of death. Here is a link to help you: http://agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/AnimalHealth/statevets.aspx
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/799747/how-to-send-a-bird-for-a-necropsy-pictures
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2014
  7. under the radar

    under the radar New Egg

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    I lost my 18 month old blue Orp this morning. She had been having some neurologic symptoms but seemed better yesterday. The others seem fine. Sorry for your loss.
     
  8. firerunner

    firerunner Out Of The Brooder

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    UPDATE

    We have some sort of respiratory infection, when I went out this morning truffles was in distress. THANK GOD I have an amazing VET one quick call to him and this is what He said

    .25 cc of Tylan 50 AND .25 CC Penicillin injected in breast or under wing and lastly Sulmet in their water follow the direction for sulmet.

    Seperated truffles (whom is doing well so after hours of waiting I am starting to think she will live) she is to be dosed again in 3 days.
    Others birds should be fine unless they show symptoms (none of the others have symptoms yet)

    If it rains they are to be brought in (florida so it rains ALLT sometimes)

    Try to keep their run dry.

    Keep poop scooped up daily ( we scoop poop once a week)

    Start and keep them on electrolytes and Vitamins.

    Change their water frequently and often. Warm water is a breeding ground for bacteria.

    So that is where we stand.

    I am exhausted ( I have MS so being out in todays heat has it flared up)

    Will keep everyone posted on how it goes.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2014

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