Electric wire help!

[The Phantom]

So I am dealing with raccoons, they have killed my rare pair of pheasants worth $600. I would like to run electric wire around the tops of my coops. Just have a few questions. How many joules does it take to keep coons away? Can I run the wire under gound to get to the coop? What is your setup?
Thanks

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I don't know the power needed to keep raccoons at bay but you can't bury the wire underground unless it is in conduit or you link it with insulated direct burial cable.
The bare wire will dissipate power right into the soil.
Even grass touching the wire will detract from the impact.

 

[Lazy Farmer]

Hot wires only work if the thing you are trying to shock is touching ground AND the hot wire not touching ground. IF you hot wire up away from the earth, you will need to add a wire connected to ground.

The center of the 3 wires is connected to ground as seen in this pic. As far as voltage is concerned, I use a ten mile box, about a 8000 volt pulse,

enough to wake up an elephant. For coons, a 2 mile box will work.
I would invest in live traps as well. Dispatch the little bandits. Once they discover a food source, they will not leave until the food source is exhausted.

TSC sells Coon size traps at a reasonable price.

 

[Lazy Farmer]

I don't know the power needed to keep raccoons at bay but you can't bury the wire underground unless it is in conduit or you link it with direct burial cable.
The bare wire will dissipate power right into the soil.
Even grass touching the wire will detract from the impact.

 

[The Phantom]

I don't know the power needed to keep raccoons at bay but you can't bury the wire underground unless it is in conduit or you link it with insulated direct burial cable.
The bare wire will dissipate power right into the soil.
Even grass touching the wire will detract from the impact.

Ok. So just put the wire in some plastic conduit and it will be fine if you bury it?

Hot wires only work if the thing you are trying to shock is touching ground AND the hot wire not touching ground. IF you hot wire up away from the earth, you will need to add a wire connected to ground.View attachment 1426214 The center of the 3 wires is connected to ground as seen in this pic. As far as voltage is concerned, I use a ten mile box, about a 8000 volt pulse, View attachment 1426251 enough to wake up an elephant. For coons, a 2 mile box will work.
I would invest in live traps as well. Dispatch the little bandits. Once they discover a food source, they will not leave until the food source is exhausted.View attachment 1426235 TSC sells Coon size traps at a reasonable price.

My pens are touching the ground, the wire would be on the pen with insulators. The coons crawl up the side of the pen.

 

[Howard E]

This is my most recent setup. A hot wire fence, within a hot wire fence.

This one is a single wire, intended for crowd control to keep the new kids confined to quarters....free to roam about within a garden area setup special for them. So far, it is working. In the three days it has been working, none have been found outside the wire. I've not seen anyone seriously get it (one got tickled), yet only they go up to it, stare at it, then back off. How would they know?

Anyway, basic setup is like this. One single hot wire, connected to a fence charger, which in this case, is powered by a 12 volt deep cycle battery. No solar charger. Unless it is grounded and shorts out, a single charge will last nearly 2 months. So no need to tether to an AC outlet. In this case, the ground is the steel T post that also serves as a corner post for the poly tape fence.

That is a 0.6 joule charger, which is delivering 7,000 volts+. As per this maker, that is plenty to deal with almost all animals. Should be enough to whack any coon, dog or other varmint.

My other charger is much hotter.....13,000 volts+. This one....

https://parmakusa.com/product/magnum-12uo/


To run such a wire around an existing fence made of some type of woven wire and perhaps steel posts, the woven wire and steel posts can be connected to the ground or (-) side of the charger. The single hot wire runs along top. Assuming the animal is forced to climb the wire fence to get over it, the hot wire waits for them along the top. So while standing on the ground wire, they touch the hot wire and it lights them up.

If it is a board fence, or something that will not conduct electricity, then you have to run and adjacent ground wire to ground them. Exactly like Connie shows.

 

[Howard E]

What wire are you wanting to bury? An AC line to power it up? No other line ever gets buried.

 

[The Phantom]

What wire are you wanting to bury? An AC line to power it up? No other line ever gets buried.

The hot wire.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Ok. So just put the wire in some plastic conduit and it will be fine if you bury it?

My pens are touching the ground, the wire would be on the pen with insulators. The coons crawl up the side of the pen.

If you install the PVC conduit properly, buried with els to bring the pipe above the soil and add fittings to prevent rain from entering, you can then bury it. You'll probably need a fishtape.
You'll also want to seal off the ends to keep spiders or any debris from getting in.

 

[The Phantom]

This is my most recent setup. A hot wire fence, within a hot wire fence.View attachment 1426479 View attachment 1426478 View attachment 1426477

This one is a single wire, intended for crowd control to keep the new kids confined to quarters....free to roam about within a garden area setup special for them. So far, it is working. In the three days it has been working, none have been found outside the wire. I've not seen anyone seriously get it (one got tickled), yet only they go up to it, stare at it, then back off. How would they know?

Anyway, basic setup is like this. One single hot wire, connected to a fence charger, which in this case, is powered by a 12 volt deep cycle battery. No solar charger. Unless it is grounded and shorts out, a single charge will last nearly 2 months. So no need to tether to an AC outlet. In this case, the ground is the steel T post that also serves as a corner post for the poly tape fence.

That is a 0.6 joule charger, which is delivering 7,000 volts+. As per this maker, that is plenty to deal with almost all animals. Should be enough to whack any coon, dog or other varmint.

My other charger is much hotter.....13,000 volts+. This one....

https://parmakusa.com/product/magnum-12uo/


To run such a wire around an existing fence made of some type of woven wire and perhaps steel posts, the woven wire and steel posts can be connected to the ground or (-) side of the charger. The single hot wire runs along top. Assuming the animal is forced to climb the wire fence to get over it, the hot wire waits for them along the top. So while standing on the ground wire, they touch the hot wire and it lights them up.

If it is a board fence, or something that will not conduct electricity, then you have to run and adjacent ground wire to ground them. Exactly like Connie shows.

Sorry I know nothing about hot wire. So if the wire is on top of the pen and the coon climbs the pen and touches it, he will not be shocked?