Euskal Oiloa ( Basque Thread)

[ronott1]

Hi ronott1, welcome

Thanks

I can't wait to get some of the Basque Eggs in March!

 

[Laingcroft]

Greenfire peeps arrived today.

Here is the divided brooder (week old chicks on the right, new 3 day old peeps on left) and closeup of the week old chicks showing wing feathers coming in.

 

[1muttsfan]

Quite a bit of color variation in the down isn't there?

 

[Young Heritage]

There is a lot of variation in most all aspects of the North American EOs. They should be yellow down chicks with no spots from what I have determined. There is still a lot of mixed blood that will have to be breed out.

 

[Laingcroft]

I should probably add that the side of new peeps include three cream legbars (brown chipmunk pattern) and the other side with older chicks include two EE peeps (chipmunk) and five lavender ameraucanas (gray) in addition to the EOs.

Yes, there is some variation in the down color but it is all golden. The same thing can be said of New Hampshire chicks and RIR chicks which also have variation in within the same hatches from purebred flocks. Not every peep hatched is a perfect specimen of its breed, but that doesn't mean it isn't "pure." Keep in mind that this is also a landrace breed.

I'm keeping a journal to try and track variations and resulting adult feathers as they come in. Hopefully this will help in selecting for various traits down the road.

 

[Young Heritage]

I should probably add that the side of new peeps include three cream legbars (brown chipmunk pattern) and the other side with older chicks include two EE peeps (chipmunk) and five lavender ameraucanas (gray) in addition to the EOs.

Yes, there is some variation in the down color but it is all golden. The same thing can be said of New Hampshire chicks and RIR chicks which also have variation in within the same hatches from purebred flocks. Not every peep hatched is a perfect specimen of its breed, but that doesn't mean it isn't "pure." Keep in mind that this is also a landrace breed.

I'm keeping a journal to try and track variations and resulting adult feathers as they come in. Hopefully this will help in selecting for various traits down the road.

I agree but all info that we currently have is that all EOs in North America came from Eric Bravard "I think that is the correct name" and they were crossed with an unknown breed or breeds " we suspect Pennes were one" due to the limited gene pool. We are still a few years away from getting the majority of the bad or crossed genes out and until that happen I personally do not consider them pure breeds. I also do not think you will find a North American EO anywhere close to the Spanish SOP. I have been searching for months as have many others and we still have not seen one close to the SOP.

 

[Laingcroft]

I guess I've got more research to do, including reviewing the Spanish standard, which is fine; I'm not planning to show these chickens. I'd love to know how they arrived in the US but don't know anything about Eric Brevard. If he imported a few then began outcrossing, is it known what breed(s) he used?

From my VERY limited research outside of Greenfire's information, the Euskal Oiloa was just a landrace breed/assortment of mixed flocks located on various farmsteads in the Basque country until 1975/6 when one or more Spanish poultry fanciers or preservationists decided to start gathering eggs in an attempt to standardize a breed. By 2000 they had standardized the breed to single combs and varieties of black (beltza), brownish-red (lepogorri), arminada white (zilarra) and the marradune, a brown or yellowish cream color with white striping (barring.) No reference was made to black or dark gray stripes though all images show only the roosters having black barring in the tail feathers - hens are golden with light hints of barring. Birds that fit this description are the ones I plan to breed from; the rest will remain part of the layer flock.

Short of importing directly from Spain/France/Basque country in order find one that meets the Spanish SOP, the only thing that can be done is breed with what is currently available in hopes of achieving it.

 

[3riverschick]

I agree but all info that we currently have is that all EOs in North America came from Eric Bravard "I think that is the correct name"

Eric Rivard . His company is out of business now, but was called Perservation Genetique, in Ontario, CAN.
Best,
karen

 

[3riverschick]

I'd love to know how they arrived in the US but don't know anything about Eric Brevard. If he imported a few then began outcrossing, is it known what breed(s) he used?

Why don't you look him up and ask him?
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From my VERY limited research outside of Greenfire's information, the Euskal Oiloa was just a landrace breed/assortment of mixed flocks located on various farmsteads in the Basque country until 1975/6 when one or more Spanish poultry fanciers or preservationists decided to start gathering eggs in an attempt to standardize a breed. By 2000 they had standardized the breed to single combs and varieties of black (beltza), brownish-red (lepogorri), arminada white (zilarra) and the marradune, a brown or yellowish cream color with white striping (barring.) No reference was made to black or dark gray stripes though all images show only the roosters having black barring in the tail feathers - hens are golden with light hints of barring. Birds that fit this description are the ones I plan to breed from; the rest will remain part of the layer flock.

The Euskal Oilia were resurrected and preserved by the Spanish Government in a government run program.

Short of importing directly from Spain/France/Basque country in order find one that meets the Spanish SOP, the only thing that can be done is breed with what is currently available in hopes of achieving it.

Conservation of livestock genetic resources in Euskadi (Basque Country) - M. Gómez[8] & I. Amezaga[9]
http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/y4924t/y4924t09.htm
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•Beltza : Black with greenish sheen in some areas.
Rooster and hen: the plumage is entirely black with
bluish green reflections, in the first than the second.
http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/800x600_image002.jpg
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•Gorria : Black-Tailed Buff after the manner of New Hampshire fowl.
Gallo: the esclavina and the caireles are orange red, noted for his
brilliance on the rest of the plumage. At the end of the esclavina
feathers present in its Center, a spearhead black. In the wings,
the arch and the roof are brown tone. In the primary and secondary
feathers predominates chestnut without reddish hue in this case,
on the black, valuing it more animals as more share of chestnut submit.
Feathers 8-10 constituting the lower row of flight coverts are black.
The tail has the rectrices and the Gorges of black with metallic
green sheen. The back and the Chair are brown reddish, like the bow
and the wing covers. The front of the neck, chest, body and legs
are dark brown. The subcolor is cream.
Chicken: the general plumage is brown tone. Neck is noted for its
orange hue although not as marked as as the roosters. At the end of
the neck presents feathers with black tips, and the rectrices are
black in the tail or the black-dominated. Presents metallic luster
but less than the roosters.
cock : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/DSC_0148_800x600.jpg
hen : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/DSC_0335_800x600.jpg
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•Lepasoila : Naked Neck- Black-Tailed Buff color after the manner of the New Hampshire fowl.
.Gallo: the plumage is the neck, shoulders, crop area, the inner side of the thighs
and side areas of the abdomen devoid of feathers. Two rows of feathers can be seen in the
breast, one on each side of the sternum. The coloration of the feathers that covers the
rest of the body is the same than the Gorria variety. The skin on the totality of the
neck and part of the area of the crop takes red-hot coloration.
Chicken: the plumage is like the Rooster without the skin of the neck and crop is so red.
cock : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/DSC_0024_800x600.jpg
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•Marradun : either Crele with a wildtype base ; or barred Black-Tailed Buff.
(Karen): at least one breeder seeing chipmunk faces which leads suspicion to at
least some birds being Crele over wildtype. BTB base would be a cream chick.
.Gallo: the plumage of this variety is mainly characterized by the presence
of white stripes intermingled with the colors described in the Gorria. A second
remarkable effect is all the chestnuts shade clarified, as well as the black.
Here the subcolor is ivory.
Chicken: the barrado is more diffuse, be desirable to be more marked. It is
on the sides, at the height of the thighs, where better appreciates it.
Brown tones are clearer.
cock and hen headstudy : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/marradune1_800x600.jpg
hen : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/marradune2_800x600.jpg
hen headstudy -with chick :
http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/_MG_6080_800x600.jpg
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•Zilarra : Light, like Light Sussex.
.I Rooster and hen: the plumage is exactly the same than the variety Gorria
but replacing both the male and female, all colors and shades of red and
Brown by white; the black areas are equal.
cock : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/zilarra4.jpg
cock : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/zilarra1.jpg
hen : http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/imagen/zilarra3.jpg
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Spanish site of the above colors with pictures:
http://www.eoalak.com/sites/default/files/pdf/estandar racial euskal oiloa.pdf
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'http://www.oilotegi.org/
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http://euskaloiloa.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/euskal-oiloa-en-la-revista-euskal-herria/euskal_oiloa_1/
with pic of proper brown egg. Not dark like Marans. Just regular brown egg.
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Source: Pais Vasco
Egg: minimum 60 Gr. cream-coloured rind.
Weight of the bird: Rooster 3.6 Kg. 2.5 Kg chicken.
Diameter of the Rings: I Rooster chicken 18 mm and 20 mm
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http://www.lygeum.es/?p=216
EUSKAL-OILOA
27th agosto 2006 | Etnografía,Ganadería
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Basque Chicken Euskal Oiloa
Spain
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http://www.slowfoodfoundation.com/pagine/eng/arca/dettaglio.lasso?-id=773&-nz=&-tp=

 

[3riverschick]

In 1984 the
Basque Government started up in the
Fraisoro Agrarian School (Gipuzkoa), a
programme which is called “Programme for
the selection and improvement of the Euskal
Oiloa” breed.
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As in the Basque
Country there has always been a preference
for the dark-shell eggs produced by the
native breeds. White shell egg Leghornhybrid
was not a challenge to the native
breeds until when the commercial firms
began producing hybrids with dark-shell
eggs. There are five types, all of them with
the same basic morphological constitution:
Beltza (black with greenish patches), Gorria
(red), Lepasoila (naked-neck), Marraduna
(with red strips) and Zilarra (silver colour).
The common characteristics in all of them
are typical of the Atlantic type of European
chicken: medium weight, average
production, dark egg-shell, red ear, small and
simple comb and yellow legs (Figure 10). An
already extinct breed is the “Llodiana" or
"Blond from Araba".
Aptitudes
Mean production of 200 dark eggs with an
average weight of 61 g. Due to its medium
weight it is used in meat production,
reaching a liveweight of 2 kg at 13 weeks of
age under farm conditions. The birds are also
UNUM group.. www.unfairdenial.com
well-known for their use in ornamental
aviculture and their feathers in the
production of artificial flies for fishing hooks.
Association Euskal Abereak
Recently, an association named Euskal
Abereak has been formed which includes
more than 20 Basque farmer associations
that breed Basque native breeds. This
Association comprises approximately 1 000
farmers with more than 15 000 animals with
the main aim to join efforts in order to
continue recuperating the Basque breeds
from extinction, as well as to divulge a
beautiful legate of our ancestors. The web
site: www.euskalabereak.com, contains
information on the Association and the
Basque breeds.
http://www.euskalabereak.net/
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Original Spanish text:Tiene 5 variedades reconocidas, con todas las características iguales a las descritas con anterioridad y que se diferencian según el color de sus plumas: Beltza: El plumaje es totalmente negro con reflejos verdes azulados. Gorria: son de color de plumaje rojo anaranjado, destacando por su brillo.
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english translation of webpage; http://www.euskalabereak.net/detalle.aspx?Id=43
http://tinyurl.com/3pmv4lj
using google translator which will read both Spanish and Basque.
(About Us)
Euskal Abereak is the Association that promotes the conservation of indigenous livestock breeds
and she Basque group 20 Associations, which in turn represent the interests of 17 races, with
912 members who own 15,224 animals.
Euskal Abereak born under the National Exhibition of Breeds Euskal Herria, in October 2000, in Markina
(Bizkaia) with the aim of combining efforts between the associations of livestock breeds Basque
to achieve a common goal: to bequeath to the next generation of genetic inheritance we have received
from the above and maintain the biodiversity.
The races for which development and expansion works are Euskal Abereak: Bovine:
Betizu, Mona, Pyrenees and terrain. Goat: Azpi Gorri Sheep:
Blackface and Carranzana Equine Sasi Ardi: *** Encartaciones, Horse mountain of the Basque Country
and Pottoka. Porcina: Euskal Txerria Caninas: Erbi Txakurra, Euskal Artzain Txakurra Gorbeiako
e Iletsua, Villano de las Encartaciones y Villanuco de las Encartaciones. Swine: Euskal Txerria
Canine: Erbi Txakurra, Euskal Artzain Gorbeiako and Iletsua Txakurra, Villain of Encartaciones
and Villanuco of Encartaciones. Aviares: Euskal Antzara, Euskal Olioa (beltza, gorria, lepasoila,
marraduna y zilarra). Avian: Euskal Antzara, Euskal Olio (beltza, gorria, lepasoila, marraduna
and zilarra).