Everyone tries to press that chickens are pets, but

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If those were my thousands of dollars, and it was between me having a home to live in, a place to even keep an animal, I'd take that over one pet. Earning thousands of dollars is a lot of hard work and you have to set priorities in adult life.

Amen, sister. I love my animals but my family and my home come first. Period.
 
my bird are livestock, and farm animals, that i have to make me money, i dont mind killing pests like mice, rats, or predators like coyotes, neighbors dogs,hawks,ect. my pets live in my house with me, and they get the same treatment as my farm animals, if it cost more then 50 bucks to make them better, i cull them. ALL my animals are here for my family to live off from, they either make money, or they make dinner.
 
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No, I don't eat meat, and I'm working on becoming a vegan.
As long as animals used for meat and things are treated right (which is better that some people raise them and kill them themselves since the meat/diary/egg industry is horrific) then it's ok. Just not something I would be capable of or would want to do.

Say someone asked me what kinds of pets I have and I mentioned my ducks. Then they say "Do you eat them?" and start making comments about wanting to eat MY beloved pet ducks and saying other stupid comments... that's what irritates me.
 
I have a chicken a growing tumor on her neck, so she will have to go soon unfortunately, we cannot afford to take the chickens to the vet.... not that there is one around here that treats chickens.
 
I can't help you, my chickens aren't pets they are livestock.
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I don't think it's necessary (or even, always, constructive) to divide things into cast-iron categories like "pet" and "livestock" with nothing in between.

Can't some people have some animals that are sort of pet-ish, sort of livestock-ish, something in between? That is, having more personal attachment to them than a stereotyped notion of livestock-as-just-a-utilitarian-object, but less personal attachment than a stereotyped notion of beloved-dog-for-whom-I-would-give-my-right-arm-and-second-mortgage-the-house.

I also don't see where it's necessarily any more caring and loving to take a doomed animal to the vet for euthanasia (involving a stressful trip and scary new experiences before death) than to just put it down ourself at home, if you're able.

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No, I don't eat meat, and I'm working on becoming a vegan.
As long as animals used for meat and things are treated right (which is better that some people raise them and kill them themselves since the meat/diary/egg industry is horrific) then it's ok. Just not something I would be capable of or would want to do.

Say someone asked me what kinds of pets I have and I mentioned my ducks. Then they say "Do you eat them?" and start making comments about wanting to eat MY beloved pet ducks and saying other stupid comments... that's what irritates me.

Please do not take this personally or any other vegan but in case you have forgotten...plants are living creatures also...every thing you ingest is a living organism of some kind before it is killed and eaten. Do not be so quick to be harsh about people eating pet animals when you would quickly kill a plant to eat it. Fair is fair. Plants have a valuable job in more ways that merely eating them.

Farm animals, livestock or whatever term you place on it...it is an animal. It is our own personal bond, perspective and relationship with the animal that makes it anything different. I think the cougar is a wonderfully beautiful creature...it is free to live on my property all it wants to am I going to make a pet out of it? No Will I kill it if need be? Yes will I lose sleep over that? Doubtful.

The comments of "Do you eat them" is not an irritant it is a realistic question. Society has gone too far removed from its food source and they forget. they think they buy a dozen eggs...oh good I did not kill anything for this food. what they forget is that there is some leghorn in a cramped cage laying that egg, getting auto fed three times a day, drinking water from a tube and who has a life expectancy of 75 weeks...then it is sent to slaughter. It is what it is.

It is far better to raise the animal yourself, care for it, feed it, give it a good life and then kill it for food as opposed to some of the conditions meat animals live in and the substances they fed and shot up with.

Being a vegan will not make the situation better and being upset when someone mentions eating a pet animal will not help either. Look for useful ways to change what you can, accept what you will and let go of what cannot be altered by you as an individual.
 
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Well for me,..i think it depends on the animal..like..okay..we all pretty much get how to cull a chicken..(chop its head off..its quick and painless)...but, say my 130# Saint Brenard needed to be put down..how in gods name do you do it?...(if you dont own a gun).... and even a cat....you cant chop their heads off..so unless you have a gun, they need to be brought to a vet..
and yes, pigs and chickens and ducks ..ARE livestock.."farm animals"... whats wrong with that word?....it dosent mean you abuse them or anything just because you call them livestock...thats what they are..for meat..
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..NOW..you dont HAVE to eat your livestock...i dont eat my goats or pot belly pigs..but..i certanily could...its my choice....but..for me the REAL ISSUE IS how they are treated while they are alive...and also..that they are put down(whatever way) humanely and quickly....
 
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