F2s on Jubilee Orpington project - Progress PICS on pg 1 & 2

[Reinbeau]

I fell in love with them when I saw a photo of one. Here's a web page with some photos. I can't wait to see the results of Jody & ?Charlie's breeding!

 

[gumpsgirl]

They look wonderful Jody!

You and Charlie, both, are doing a fantastic job!

 

[NGT ANGL]

Please post pics when they feather out! For now though, I have little chick love....

- they are SO cute! Good luck with the project!

 

[Big Blue]

They look good! Good luck with them.

Jim and Kaye

 

[hinkjc]

Thanks everyone! We're actually going at this project a couple of ways and will integrate them at some point. Here is another line of the project.

We used Speckled Sussex X Buff Orp. First generation chicks growing out.

Then our 3rd line is actually another project for mottled orpington still in progress, but coming along quite nicely. We have 3rd generation chicks hatching and growing from them. I'll start another post to discuss the mottling.

 

[Krys109uk]

That's an interesting webpage Reinbeau. I'd never seen jubilees quite as dark as the bird they'd brought back from Germany. When I lived in UK my jubilee orps had come from Germany but their ground colour was intermediate to the two colours they showed. I like the bright colour, its pretty.

Jubilee is a much longer project than many. Also the difficulty with Orps is the availabiliy of birds to use for the crosses. There are mottled Orps or cochins & there are speckled Sussex. Speckled Sussex in US are on a different gene at the e-locus to Speckled Sussex in other parts of the world & also differet to any of the European Jubilees. Then there is a lack of particularly typey Orpingtons with which to cross. A breed is more than a colour; without type it is not any breed. I've been doing blue jubilees for a few years now &, while I've got the colour the type has a long way to go.
There is an interesting project along the same lines with mille fleur Pekins (cochin bantams. People have been on the project for the best part of a decade &, while there are some very pretty birds about, they still are not really consistent.
A very long & interesting project, I think.
I'm particularly interested in Jody's brown chicks. I'd love to see how they feather up.

 

[Krys109uk]

Jodie, your F1 Speckled Sussex to buff Orps are looking good. They look surprising like like my Spangled Dorking X buffs which are all wheaten. I've been wracking my brains trying to think of how to improve type without all the hassle of completely losing the colour & pattern again for a generation, so have done a few different crosses to breed back into the birds & see what works.

 

[hinkjc]

I agree, the body type is the hardest part of the project. For the buff part we plan to cross the best type sister/brother in hopes to hold on to some of it. We will get less mille fleur pattern, but hopefully better body shape by doing this. I am anticipating a long road ahead.

Krys, what are you thoughts on crosssing the brown chicks (if they are worthy, of course) to the buff line?

 

[cap1717]

Wow! Those Jubilee's are GORGEOUS? Are they available commercaially? Must one "breed one's own in order to aquire a Jub. chick? Been debating what the next 3 will be, and had decided on Buff Orp, Blk Australorp, and now, Jubilee! Mille De Fluer is gorgeous on a big bodied hen!

 

[Krys109uk]

Krys, what are you thoughts on crosssing the brown chicks (if they are worthy, of course) to the buff line?

How did the brown chicks come about? Have you got a closer pic?
I wish mine were on eb.​