Faverolles Thread

[keesmom]

What about using a speckled Sussex? Not quite the same, but they have the same leg color.

Or are you going to work with bantams? In that case never mind.

 

[hcammack]

My bantam roosters have never been to loud they are actually pretty nice espeacially compared to the LF ameraucana roosters. I live in the suburbs and no one has ever really complained.

 

[EweSheep]

Rock N' Faverolles :

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I had heard the blues and buffs were created by crossing with orps.Are there buff and blue LF faverolles in the US?

There may be a few blues left (made using orps). There was a guy who created large buffs but do to the economy, he got rid of all of them and now they are once again, extinct.​

Catalupa farms got the blue Favs and it was VERY disappointing I had with them. Not only me, but for the others that bidded on the eggs got similar or different results than a Faverolle should look like. many of them didn't have fifth toes or beards, like they were throwbacks from the Orps. I was not definately happy with it and gave them away to pet homes only. It sucked!

So the blue and the blacks and ermint colors are going to be like needle in haystacks. It is NOT impossible but just so hard to find.

You CAN work with Speckled Sussex bantams and it would get your there a little shorter. It would take at least five generations to get there. I am using that example from Jody for her Jubilee Orps when they are really putting the quality and color out without too much worry about throwbacks.

 

[keesmom]

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I know there's one breeder of bantam speckled Sussex here in MA. I'm not sure how common the bantams are. Obviously the LF are common now.

 

[EweSheep]

In the Sussex thread, there is a guy in TN also has bantam Sussex.

 

[keesmom]

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Yes, herechickchick has a pair from MA. I'm sure there are more breeders out there. I just happen to remember the local breeder since she had some birds entered at the Middleboro show last fall.

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Hmmm...food for thought, anyway...I so wish I had room for another coop! Maybe if a few people commit to the project, and work together, but each bringing in different breeds to see what comes of it... hmmm...

 

[Freeholder]

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So, using that calculator, I used a salmon roo over a mille fleur hen, took the golden columbian male offspring, bred them back to mille fleur hen, and finally got mille fleur patterning with various base colors...hmmm...sounds like a lot of work...up for it Kathleen??

I just tried it -- you sure get a lot of different colors with that last cross of the golden columbian male on the mille fleur hen! Yes, I'm up to it (I hope, LOL!), but I'll have to find the Mille Fleur hens to start the project with. I've asked on the Mille Fleur cochin project thread if anyone there has any large fowl MF cochins. They all seem to be working with bantams.

What other colors do you think might work? I was looking at Orloffs, which are spangled (mille fleur??) and bearded and have the right leg color and size. There are also Speckled (what would they be in the chicken calculator??) Sussex. Neither are as light (in the base color) as I'd like to see -- I'm after more of a buff base color.

I think it will be a fun project, in any case!

Kathleen

 

[Freeholder]

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Now that's a thought. I think I might start with Spangled Russian Orloffs (I have a friend who has been trying to talk me into getting some anyway!), and see where that goes. I think it would be a better cross with the Favs than using the Mille Fleur Leghorns, since they are already about the same size, and have beards and white skin. They are also decent layers until they get a little older and start going broody. The pea comb might be a problem for some people; I suppose it could be bred out eventually, but in this climate I'd just as soon keep it (would they still be Faverolles, LOL!?!). I'm not sure what to use on the chicken calculator to represent the Orloffs, though. The spangled color on the calc is like the Spangled Hamburgs, not like the Orloffs. Should I just use the mille fleur selection??

Okay, I just tried that again and it won't take too many generations to work! Anyone on this forum have nice Orloffs?!?

Kathleen

ETA: someone on the Mille Fleur Leghorns thread was disappointed in their birds from Sand Hill because the legs were white -- that would be fine for this project!

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

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Now that's a thought. I think I might start with Spangled Russian Orloffs (I have a friend who has been trying to talk me into getting some anyway!), and see where that goes. I think it would be a better cross with the Favs than using the Mille Fleur Leghorns, since they are already about the same size, and have beards and white skin. They are also decent layers until they get a little older and start going broody. The pea comb might be a problem for some people; I suppose it could be bred out eventually, but in this climate I'd just as soon keep it (would they still be Faverolles, LOL!?!). I'm not sure what to use on the chicken calculator to represent the Orloffs, though. The spangled color on the calc is like the Spangled Hamburgs, not like the Orloffs. Should I just use the mille fleur selection??

Okay, I just tried that again and it won't take too many generations to work! Anyone on this forum have nice Orloffs?!?

Kathleen

OOH, cool! I just did it too, even in early generations, you'd end up with some pretty cool looking babies!! And as far as combs go, since you'd have recessive single combs in all the F1 babies, you should get 50% single combs in F2 babies, then you could just breed the single combs that have the right colors, etc... (I think this is right, I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong)...and no, I really don't think you could call them Faverolles if they had a pea comb. This is COOL! I'm getting all excited!!