Faverolles Thread

[faverolles]

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I feel the bigger the better. If you build small pens that are movable on grass, Then I think that would work.
Dick

 

[buffbeauty]

Justuschickens59 is one hat imported "English" orpingtons. She bought all colors buff, BBS, cuckoo and others and only had 2 hatch also luckily a male and female BBS so she has worked on building that line. It has got to suck to spend that muh money ( thousands?) and get 2 chickens!!! They are gorgeous though!! I have 3 of her 50-75% chicks and they make my standard BBS orps look puny And the blue is stunning. Lacing is GORGEOUS!!!

Which brings me to this..... Someone on that thread mentioned that the better blues come from a blue/black cross vs a black/splash cross. (I think). But didn't mention a blue/blue cross. Also preferred a lighter splash cock bird over a darker one bu didn't goninto details as to why. Any input on that?

 

[Rock N' Faverolles]

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I know this question is directed at Dick, but I still want to add my 2 cents. Blue is one of my favorite colors. The only reason I got rid of the bantam blue favs is that I still have 4 other blue varieties and I thought that was enough for now. Generally I find that the best looking blues come from the blue x blue mating. The only time I have ever used a splash was to help with yellow leg color on a Plymouth Rock and since faverolles don't have yellow legs, I don't think I'd even use the splash, with one exception, I'll mention in just a bit. A good blue has a nice powder blue base color with a DISTINCT black lacing around each feather. I capitalized that as most people forget that. Now if you look at all your blues and none has a good base color (don't even look at lacing yet), then and only then, would I use your splash. I would cross a black male on the splash and hatch out quite a bit. This should result in the full spectrum of blues and out of this you should get some good base color birds. If you do have a good base colored bird, then look at lacing next. If it has good wide lacing (think of a silver laced wyandotte, but blue where silver is, that is the type of lacing I'm talking about) then try to pair it up to another blue with the same good base color and lacing. If it has good base color and little or no lacing mate it to a bird that has a darker base color, or if need be even a black bird. Generally that is the only time I'd use black as well. If you have any more questions, please PM me and I'll try my best to guide you the right way. Below is a blue andalusian pullet which sort of illustrates the color (it needs work in several areas too).

 

[Rock N' Faverolles]

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You will find that everyone you will talk to will have different opinions and the post above was what works for me. Of the two crosses blue/black or blue/splash, the first one generally has the better blues as it helps with lacing and such, and the second mating is usually all over the place. I still prefer the blue to blue mating as stated above.

David

 

[thechickonthehill]

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I feel the bigger the better. If you build small pens that are movable on grass, Then I think that would work.
Dick

Thanks Dick!

 

[buffbeauty]

Rock N' Faverolles :

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You will find that everyone you will talk to will have different opinions and the post above was what works for me. Of the two crosses blue/black or blue/splash, the first one generally has the better blues as it helps with lacing and such, and the second mating is usually all over the place. I still prefer the blue to blue mating as stated above.

David

thanks!! That helps. I don't have 2 blues at this point but will to grow out soon enough hopefully. Thanks again​

 

[keesmom]

Rock N' Faverolles :

I know this question is directed at Dick, but I still want to add my 2 cents. Blue is one of my favorite colors. The only reason I got rid of the bantam blue favs is that I still have 4 other blue varieties and I thought that was enough for now. Generally I find that the best looking blues come from the blue x blue mating. The only time I have ever used a splash was to help with yellow leg color on a Plymouth Rock and since faverolles don't have yellow legs, I don't think I'd even use the splash, with one exception, I'll mention in just a bit. A good blue has a nice powder blue base color with a DISTINCT black lacing around each feather. I capitalized that as most people forget that. Now if you look at all your blues and none has a good base color (don't even look at lacing yet), then and only then, would I use your splash. I would cross a black male on the splash and hatch out quite a bit. This should result in the full spectrum of blues and out of this you should get some good base color birds. If you do have a good base colored bird, then look at lacing next. If it has good wide lacing (think of a silver laced wyandotte, but blue where silver is, that is the type of lacing I'm talking about) then try to pair it up to another blue with the same good base color and lacing. If it has good base color and little or no lacing mate it to a bird that has a darker base color, or if need be even a black bird. Generally that is the only time I'd use black as well. If you have any more questions, please PM me and I'll try my best to guide you the right way. Below is a blue andalusian pullet which sort of illustrates the color (it needs work in several areas too).

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44197_blue_andy_pullet.jpg

Hi David! Your input is welcome too! Blue can be a difficult color to manage.

So it seems I had the right idea. I'll go with the 2 pens of blue x blue, and one of black x splash/black. I'll separate the black hen and splash hen this weekend so that by the first of the year I know the black roo will be the dad. I also like the blacks so I will see if I can get a decent group of them together as well.​

 

[mame1616]

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See, JMO, but I don't think that's very fair. Their standard is different from ours, so the birds we have do look puny next to them, but in reality, are really pretty good. Those birds look like cochins with clean legs - The APA Standard does not call for that. At least the Fav standard seems pretty similar, but I think they are a bit bigger over there?

 

[mame1616]

Rock N' Faverolles :

I know this question is directed at Dick, but I still want to add my 2 cents. Blue is one of my favorite colors. The only reason I got rid of the bantam blue favs is that I still have 4 other blue varieties and I thought that was enough for now. Generally I find that the best looking blues come from the blue x blue mating. The only time I have ever used a splash was to help with yellow leg color on a Plymouth Rock and since faverolles don't have yellow legs, I don't think I'd even use the splash, with one exception, I'll mention in just a bit. A good blue has a nice powder blue base color with a DISTINCT black lacing around each feather. I capitalized that as most people forget that. Now if you look at all your blues and none has a good base color (don't even look at lacing yet), then and only then, would I use your splash. I would cross a black male on the splash and hatch out quite a bit. This should result in the full spectrum of blues and out of this you should get some good base color birds. If you do have a good base colored bird, then look at lacing next. If it has good wide lacing (think of a silver laced wyandotte, but blue where silver is, that is the type of lacing I'm talking about) then try to pair it up to another blue with the same good base color and lacing. If it has good base color and little or no lacing mate it to a bird that has a darker base color, or if need be even a black bird. Generally that is the only time I'd use black as well. If you have any more questions, please PM me and I'll try my best to guide you the right way. Below is a blue andalusian pullet which sort of illustrates the color (it needs work in several areas too).

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44197_blue_andy_pullet.jpg

Is this lacing good, or should it be more defined than this? This is my "puny" orp pullet. She doesn't look as slate-gray in person - more blue.

 

[Rock N' Faverolles]

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In my opinion, I think the lacing needs to be more defined. The lacing on blue birds is not blue, but actually black. Is 'puny' her name, or is she small for an orp? The lighter the base color, the more black the lacing will look. Either way, I like my birds to have the thicker lacing the way they are supposed to be. Most people settle for a faint edging, but that's not what the standard calls for, and I believe the more distinct the lacing the prettier the bird.

David