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Fuzzy picture of some of the project cockerels. Ermine boys should not have any black in their saddle feathers, unlike Columbian Rocks, Wyandottes etc. Columbians have a black stripe down the center of the saddle feathers. These 2 have some but less than their dad and they each have 5 toes. They also look to be pure silver, where he was yellow (carried silver and gold).
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/13729_113011_12.jpg
Ok absolutely LOVE these roosters? What is the "formula" you are using?
Fuzzy picture of some of the project cockerels. Ermine boys should not have any black in their saddle feathers, unlike Columbian Rocks, Wyandottes etc. Columbians have a black stripe down the center of the saddle feathers. These 2 have some but less than their dad and they each have 5 toes. They also look to be pure silver, where he was yellow (carried silver and gold).
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/13729_113011_12.jpg
Ok absolutely LOVE these roosters? What is the "formula" you are using?
Oh I wish I could get some LF cuckoo! I do not have much knowledge of color genetics. I would not even know where to start to try and create the color. I guess I will just look at pictures then...
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This is a very interesting topic to me. I am beginning to see that there could be different paths to obtain the same end goal.
From my limited experience, it sounds like KEESMON's strategy might be the most direct approach???? Only because you are maintaining size and mostly culling for colors??? I am sure there are more variable that I am missing.
I too am a novice regarding development....but another good place to begin is to learn everything about the Favarolle to know what else needs to be maintained to be a Fav. skin color, toes, body type, dual quality meat,comb, beak color, egg color & laying ability, sweetness of temperament, feather type....Black seems to be the universal color variant. Orpingtons seem a good choice.
Janine, why not say black orp to a black bantam fav???? or Black bantam to LF Salmon and keep the Largest???? Also do i remember someone at one time bred LF BBS???????
eliz
This is a very interesting topic to me. I am beginning to see that there could be different paths to obtain the same end goal.
From my limited experience, it sounds like KEESMON's strategy might be the most direct approach???? Only because you are maintaining size and mostly culling for colors??? I am sure there are more variable that I am missing.
I too am a novice regarding development....but another good place to begin is to learn everything about the Favarolle to know what else needs to be maintained to be a Fav. skin color, toes, body type, dual quality meat,comb, beak color, egg color & laying ability, sweetness of temperament, feather type....Black seems to be the universal color variant. Orpingtons seem a good choice.
Janine, why not say black orp to a black bantam fav???? or Black bantam to LF Salmon and keep the Largest???? Also do i remember someone at one time bred LF BBS???????
eliz
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Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
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Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
Perhaps this is might help:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator
Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
Perhaps this is might help:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator
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This is a very interesting topic to me. I am beginning to see that there could be different paths to obtain the same end goal.
From my limited experience, it sounds like KEESMON's strategy might be the most direct approach???? Only because you are maintaining size and mostly culling for colors??? I am sure there are more variable that I am missing.
I too am a novice regarding development....but another good place to begin is to learn everything about the Favarolle to know what else needs to be maintained to be a Fav. skin color, toes, body type, dual quality meat,comb, beak color, egg color & laying ability, sweetness of temperament, feather type....Black seems to be the universal color variant. Orpingtons seem a good choice.
Janine, why not say black orp to a black bantam fav???? or Black bantam to LF Salmon and keep the Largest???? Also do i remember someone at one time bred LF BBS???????
eliz
The reason I didn't go Orp to bantam Fav right off was because you still have to continue breeding back to pure solid Fav, and then you'd be fighting size a lot longer than if you started with LF Favs to Orps...
But yes, you certainly could just go with a black bantam Fav to a salmon LF and then breed the blue in by going back to the bantams. I really do not know if you could just take a solid blue bantam cock over LF salmon hens and end up with the same results...that sure would be a heck of a lot more direct....Cindy???
This is a very interesting topic to me. I am beginning to see that there could be different paths to obtain the same end goal.
From my limited experience, it sounds like KEESMON's strategy might be the most direct approach???? Only because you are maintaining size and mostly culling for colors??? I am sure there are more variable that I am missing.
I too am a novice regarding development....but another good place to begin is to learn everything about the Favarolle to know what else needs to be maintained to be a Fav. skin color, toes, body type, dual quality meat,comb, beak color, egg color & laying ability, sweetness of temperament, feather type....Black seems to be the universal color variant. Orpingtons seem a good choice.
Janine, why not say black orp to a black bantam fav???? or Black bantam to LF Salmon and keep the Largest???? Also do i remember someone at one time bred LF BBS???????
eliz
The reason I didn't go Orp to bantam Fav right off was because you still have to continue breeding back to pure solid Fav, and then you'd be fighting size a lot longer than if you started with LF Favs to Orps...
But yes, you certainly could just go with a black bantam Fav to a salmon LF and then breed the blue in by going back to the bantams. I really do not know if you could just take a solid blue bantam cock over LF salmon hens and end up with the same results...that sure would be a heck of a lot more direct....Cindy???
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Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
Perhaps this is might help:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator
Yeah, I LOVE the online genetics calculator!!!! BUT, just be aware that for example, not every black bird has the same genotype, so the calculator isn't always correct, especially when you start mixing colors. BUT it will give you a very good idea of what you might get. For example, if you do a cross of a black male with a salmon female, it will show the different genotypes I was talking about, with some of the black offspring hiding wheaten....
It is a super fun thing to play with though!!!
Beautiful birds ! i have a few F-1 for another color project. the girls were golden-red brown (one with lacing) and all the boys were sort of coronation looking...always curious about that...
What is a color calculator???? Any reading that can be recommended to learn more about color???? Thanks, eliz
Perhaps this is might help:
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator
Yeah, I LOVE the online genetics calculator!!!! BUT, just be aware that for example, not every black bird has the same genotype, so the calculator isn't always correct, especially when you start mixing colors. BUT it will give you a very good idea of what you might get. For example, if you do a cross of a black male with a salmon female, it will show the different genotypes I was talking about, with some of the black offspring hiding wheaten....
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Here's the accepted varieties for the British Faverolles Society, other than salmon - get ready to drool! Ermine is on this page.
http://britishfaverollessociety.yolasite.com/colours-standards.php
Great site! Its been saved to my Favorites
Here's the accepted varieties for the British Faverolles Society, other than salmon - get ready to drool! Ermine is on this page.
http://britishfaverollessociety.yolasite.com/colours-standards.php
Great site! Its been saved to my Favorites
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