Feather and egg colors in EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana?

[lh123]

The color pattern just looks Par

thanks MC

 

[lh123]

Here's some silver pencilling.

I like the penciling. Not fussy about it, but it does look better than partial messy peciling & lacing.

 

[MysteryChicken]

thanks MC

You're welcome.

Alot of Easter Eggers are partridge based. Of course they're going to have mixed patterns, & colors since they're just mixed up in other words.

Trying to keep things simple, I'm tired today.

They have lots of other genes at play, so you can get some very funky looking colors, & patterns.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I like the penciling. Not fussy about it, but it does look better than partial messy peciling & lacing.

Yeah.

 

[The Kooky Kiwi]

I like the penciling. Not fussy about it, but it does look better than partial messy peciling & lacing.

Here are some photo's of my recent project birds - all of which have varying degrees of "partial" pencilling and lacing - due to missing one or two genes necessary to make the complete pencilling and/or lacing.

The bird you originally pictured looks a little too uniform with it's pattern to be a "partial". I'm not 100% but it looks more like pencilling to me.

 

[The Kooky Kiwi]

Here's a copied post from another BYC thread that has useful explanations and pictures. Some of their pictures closely resemble the birds you are trying to find/achieve

http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html
Elderas is really helpful for poultry genetics.
Okay, first of all, anything red is gold based... except, a chicken can express red and still be silver based. For example, salmon is actually silver wheaten with the mahogany (red) gene.
A silver duckwing with the mahogany gene appears to be cream with a red shoulder, but you can really only see this in the males.
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Second of all, blacks are always gold or silver. Some are gold based, some are silver based. It depends upon the breed. Most are gold based because it is more common. Some blue breeders, will be silver. Sometimes they will get gold or silver leakage, and you will be able to tell.


Okay, pencilling, partridge, lacing... you really touched the quick there. Allow me to clumsily explain the most miscommunicated part of the poultry genetics world as best I can...
Pencilled- partridge gene+lacing= pencilling. Sometimes it is called partridge, sometimes called pencilling. Often used with the silver equivalent
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(Silver pencilled rock-partridge+pattern gene+silver)
There is also something called transverse pencilling which is a totally different pattern made up of different genes. It is also known as autosomal barring, which is somewhat less confusing, but still a misnomer for people who will confuse it with sex-linked barring.
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(Transverse pencilling- birchen, ginger, pattern gene)
Partridge- this one is confusing... It is a gene on the e locus, controlling the black extension. Basically it removes the red from the breast of the hen.
View attachment 2112258 (Dark brown Leghorns are a prime example of this, but they have the mahogany gene.)
However, it is also the name for a color, which is partridge based with a pattern gene. Partridge is almost always seen with a pattern gene, which shows double lacing. In America, partridge birds also have the mahogany gene.
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(Partridge pattern with pattern gene, no mahogany, from Britain)
View attachment 2112261(Partridge with pattern gene and mahogany, from America.)
To complicate things further, many people in other countries call the duckwing pattern partridge, which can be confusing.
Lacing- lacing basically means any edging on the feather that contrasts with the regular color.
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(the edging on the feather of this blue would be considered “lacing,” though it’s not really a laced pattern)
There are two laced patterns made of multiple different genes.
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(Gold laced- birchen, columbian, ginger, melanized, pattern gene)
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(Gold laced (black tail)- partridge, columbian, melanized, pattern gene. Wyandottes are different from Sebrights and Polish, the pattern doesn’t go through their tails.)
Double lacing is another pattern made of multiple genes.
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(Double laced- partridge, melanized, pattern gene. I can’t recall whether Barnevelders also have the mahogany gene.)
There is also Andalusian lacing
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(Andalusian blue- birchen, melanized, pattern gene)

DISCLAIMER: none of these are my pictures.

 

[lh123]

Thank you so much Kooky! I've saved the lace pic and the copy paste you put here. Very helpful.

Do you know what the easter egger rooster version of "Partridge pattern with pattern gene, no mahogany" looks like?

& well, I'm not trying for anything just yet. I'm hoping to move within a year. I can't have chickens where I am now. Hopefully I'll be able to move where I can have a rooster or 2. Some of the towns near me don't allow roosters. We'll see. But I'm very glad to have all this information in case I can.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Thank you so much Kooky! I've saved the lace pic and the copy paste you put here. Very helpful.

Do you know what the easter egger rooster version of "Partridge pattern with pattern gene, no mahogany" looks like?

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& well, I'm not trying for anything just yet. I'm hoping to move within a year. I can't have chickens where I am now. Hopefully I'll be able to move where I can have a rooster or 2. Some of the towns near me don't allow roosters. We'll see. But I'm very glad to have all this information in case I can.

He would probably have a coloring something like this-

Problem is, roosters with duckwing or wheaten can also look like that.

 

[lh123]

Thanks. I've had limited experience with Easter Eggers, but have yet to see an EE rooster that looks like that. I did start another thread asking for people to post pics of their EE roos. They must be out there as that color is fairly common in hens.

 

[lh123]

Kooky, what about this roo? Do you think something like this might be the roo version? Not sure if his neck ruff might be mahogany?