Feed Tests - More Results

[Bhubbard]

I adore you folks for sticking with this and being the voices of reason in all of this. I'm truly grateful. I am just so sick of it. I did my best, and people still question it. I'm not doing any more.

I'm a big picture thinker, and the big picture this little episode hints at isn't pretty. I'm too sensitive a soul for the divisiveness because we are all on the same "team" and all want the same things. Why some folks want to be angry is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I apologize I was a little angry (hangry) a month or so ago when my breakfast was coming from a store. But now I am happy again

 

[miss heny]

I adore you folks for sticking with this and being the voices of reason in all of this. I'm truly grateful. I am just so sick of it. I did my best, and people still question it. I'm not doing any more.

I'm a big picture thinker, and the big picture this little episode hints at isn't pretty. I'm too sensitive a soul for the divisiveness because we are all on the same "team" and all want the same things. Why some folks want to be angry is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I'm jusr tired of the same people who say they hate victim mentality act like victims themselves and that it some grand scheme

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Yes, but that isn't funny... (I understand and completely agree that the quants at Vanguard have no skin in the game of backyard coops)

I should have added a warning (tongue in cheek icon) I apologize for making you work this hard. I realize others reading it might take me seriously. I'll go edit the post.

Its fine, I didn't work hard at all. Once upon a time, I traded VOO. and No, I am NOT a wealthy investor but it was a decent way to invest a small amount if you thought the market was trending generally up, but couldn't pick any particular stocks that stood out. So it was easy to link.

Like all gambling, there is definite investment risk.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

These results are only for one feed brand. I fed mine Purina organic and saw a decline in their quality, stale and bug ridden. My neighbor with 40 chickens switched to a cheap feed and her hens weren't laying at all, while I was still getting two to five every other day. I had switched to a local feed mill in October. The first week she switched she started getting eggs.

Setting aside the impossibiliy (and expense) of testing representative samples of every suspect feed produced at every individual plant over a number of months at some nuetral lab (or labs!) which would not later be claimed to be "in" on the conspiracy....

Stale, bug ridden feed is typically as result of poor storage after manufacture by warehousers and retailers, not by the manufacturers. Those same storage practices can also encourage mildews and similar - again, not good eats, but not evidence of any more vast conspiracy than incompetance in inventory control and order management.

You checked the bag label for milld ate before buying, right?

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Hey isn’t that the reason for amber beer bottles compared to clear? You might be on to something lol. Probably wont stop them from laying but maybe make it taste not as good

To prevent "skunking". Also, because people would pay a price premium for it - sort of like the way white eggs were all the rage in the supermarket, until suddenly the public decided brown eggs were "fresher". Because the American public is easily manipulated - as this whole conspiracy theory experience amply demonstrates.

Related, you can "carry" information with light by manipulating the light itself. Its possible (ain't physics great???) to push a satellite with a laser beam, or to use lasers to deposit paint/ink (by superheating the ink until it boils off in a desired direction) - but I am unaware of any process using light to push a substance through a solid object without perforation, and few substances take those sorts of temperatures well.

A crazy conspiuracy theory should, in my view, pick a more plausible delivery method.
Or, you know, "magic". I hat e that widespread ignorance has been raised to such a lofty pedestal that its seemingly sought after as a desired state.

"I don't know (....), but I think that [....]" is NOT the desired state of conversation. It should be taken as an admission that everything the speaker has to say on topic (....) is likely worthless, unless they should accidentally get something right. An opinion on facts has no independent validity. Worng is still wrong, no matter how earnestly the speaker feels about it. More "I don't know (....), so I'm going to look into it further" would be GREATLY appreciated.

 

[Bhubbard]

To prevent "skunking". Also, because people would pay a price premium for it - sort of like the way white eggs were all the rage in the supermarket, until suddenly the public decided brown eggs were "fresher". Because the American public is easily manipulated - as this whole conspiracy theory experience amply demonstrates.

Related, you can "carry" information with light by manipulating the light itself. Its possible (ain't physics great???) to push a satellite with a laser beam, or to use lasers to deposit paint/ink (by superheating the ink until it boils off in a desired direction) - but I am unaware of any process using light to push a substance through a solid object without perforation, and few substances take those sorts of temperatures well.

A crazy conspiuracy theory should, in my view, pick a more plausible delivery method.
Or, you know, "magic". I hat e that widespread ignorance has been raised to such a lofty pedestal that its seemingly sought after as a desired state.

"I don't know (....), but I think that [....]" is NOT the desired state of conversation. It should be taken as an admission that everything the speaker has to say on topic (....) is likely worthless, unless they should accidentally get something right. An opinion on facts has no independent validity. Worng is still wrong, no matter how earnestly the speaker feels about it. More "I don't know (....), so I'm going to look into it further" would be GREATLY appreciated.

So true. I actually have a client that doesn’t want white eggs from me because the brown ones are healthier.

 

[nuthatched]

So true. I actually have a client that doesn’t want white eggs from me because the brown ones are healthier.

Our bashes has a poster hung up in the egg case that has FAQ about eggs, that's one of them. All their info is correct, too.

 

[Geena]

Why some folks want to be angry is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I think a lot of people are just beyond frustrated at this point. We finally got over the covid hump for the most part and people were expecting things to get better from then on out. Unfortunately in many ways a lot of things are only getting worse. Eggs costing $5 a dozen and then not having your self sufficiency hens putting out may have just pushed some people over the edge.

 

[SmiYa0126]

Setting aside the impossibiliy (and expense) of testing representative samples of every suspect feed produced at every individual plant over a number of months at some nuetral lab (or labs!) which would not later be claimed to be "in" on the conspiracy....

Stale, bug ridden feed is typically as result of poor storage after manufacture by warehousers and retailers, not by the manufacturers. Those same storage practices can also encourage mildews and similar - again, not good eats, but not evidence of any more vast conspiracy than incompetance in inventory control and order management.

You checked the bag label for milld ate before buying, right?

No, I hadn't, I didn't have issues before this last August/September.

I'm not a conspiracist, I posted my observations for my flock and my neighbors. The hens are the same ages as mine. The only time mine didn't lay was when they were molting.

 

[Sally PB]

More "I don't know (....), so I'm going to look into it further" would be GREATLY appreciated.

Oh yeah. And "further" needs to be more than the first or second site that Google finds.

One of the best professors I had would do this (music professor):

"Professor, why is a 'Picardy third' called a 'Picardy third'?"

"Sally, you're going to look that up and tell us all on Wednesday."

This was before the internet, so it meant a trip to the library, no 3 minutes on the computer.