FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

[clankeyes]

A loose lid to allow air keeps dog out

Ak rain

I keep mine on a shelf.. no worries about a dog LOL. just wanted to make sure I'm doing this correctly. THANKS

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

But it's okay if you feel hurt, LJ....just so they don't feel hurt and that's the important thing in all this. Or didn't you know? You can start a thread, do all the initial research, fight off the naysayers and thread trashers, answer a thousand repetitive questions over 2-3 years and do it with patience and a smile, help a full ton of folks....but protest one time about the feeling of being taken for granted due to the tone of a post and you are a meanie. Pure and simple.

Get over it, LJ....I have to all the time. You are a meanie and I'm a meanie and you will learn to accept your title eventually.

I think sometimes people pretend to get their feelings hurt so they don't have to endure the awkwardness of figuring out how to saying "thank you."

Lots of forums have big fat rules about posting in a thread before you've read through the thread. The rules are so strict that doing otherwise is a TOS violation, and will result in getting banned from the forum.

I would maybe feel "bad" except complete sets of fermenting instructions are sprinkled many times throughout this tread ... perhaps every 10 or so pages.

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

Well there will be no more post from me. So, maybe you can live the rest of your lives in peace. Beekissed, I got the idea you were a well respected person around here. Since I have been reading post that go back several years. So, maybe you have the ability to take my membership down. I looked for a way to do it myself but could not figure out how. If I need help when my chicks arrive then I will find it elsewhere.

Your questions were answered, multiple times, by several people. At your request. A whole huge synthesized essay was written in reply.

I'm feeling a little tricked here. Like I've been chummed.

 

[kpgoldstar]

I keep mine on a shelf.. no worries about a dog LOL. just wanted to make sure I'm doing this correctly. THANKS

You just don't want your lid on so secure that the gasses forming in the ff have nowhere to go. My lid snaps on but still allows air transfer. Sometimes I leave it cocked, sometimes snapped down. If cocked I tend to find fruit flies as it has gotten warmer.

 

[n3kms]

I have read lots of info. I have chicks coming in 3-4 days and only about a week ago did I read about fermented food for the first time. I tried to glean the info. I found this particular thread through the search. I knew it would take a few days to do the fermenting and I had a few questions I couldn't find the answers to. I thought if I read the 353 pages I might find the answers but I might not so I just simply stepped out of my comfort zone to ask. My questions were answered and I was very grateful then others got on and stated how lazy I was not to read all the pages and find the info for myself that they were tired of answering the same questions over and over. I am a nurse and I help people as well. I do not help them and then insult them in front of the world wide web at the same time. That is not much help at all. Even though I rarely made any post I felt like I had kind of a family here. I could have answered some of the questions even though I have never owned a chicken because I have read so much that you guys have written.Trying to humiliate people is not helping them.

 

[clankeyes]

You just don't want your lid on so secure that the gasses forming in the ff have nowhere to go. My lid snaps on but still allows air transfer. Sometimes I leave it cocked, sometimes snapped down. If cocked I tend to find fruit flies as it has gotten warmer.

I have been doing a SMALL amount to play around. I have a 10 cup glass container with a plastic lid.. I have not had any problems with explosions. The girls seem to like it. I will crack the lid just to play around with it. I have it fermenting in a dark room.

 

[LindaB220]

I went to walmart this morning and found a glass ONE gallon jar with a screw on lid. I bought it and now I'm thinking I probably shouldn't have. It sure seems small. Ugh. I think a 2 gallon, like you said, is the way to go. So now I'll be on the hunt for that size. Is yours just a plastic type bucket with a handle?

Yes, I just lay a plastic round bottom from when I buy a cake at the store. It's in my store house so critters can't get in. If you use the glass don't screw it down, just lay a towel or something over it. Air tight will explode. Seriously.

 

[Tikkijane]

Bless you! I hope ot helps. But of course you'll have to stalk this thread 24/7 so you can post the link on demand.

Now ... I've done it myself a time or two ... But here at BYC I'm always a bit ... confused ... when people say they don't want to skim through the threads for info so want other people to do a whole bunch of re-writing/typing for them. To me it's a little like smelling the neighbors' dinner, calling them to ask what they're eating, then saying "I don't feel like going to the store and cooking, so can you whip up another batch for me and drop it by? The table is already set, so make it snappy."

Of course there are reasons people do that here ... having to page through long threads a few posts at a time as BYC requires is tedious. It can take a while for pages to load, especially if there are photos in the posts. And sometimes the quoting gets messy so it can be confusing. It would be hugely helpful if the OP was allowed to go back to the first post of a thread and make edits, either adding important info to that first post, or installing links or something. I really wish BYC would allow that function on these "Informational" threads. That way, new readers could know if they started threads with Post #1 they'd get the executive summary ... and then could read through the thread for more details if they want ...

EXACTLY!!!!  When I joined BYC I was still raising my children as a single parent, working full time and on call all the time, dealing with family dramas, and homesteading a small place with animal, garden, house and vehicle chores.....and I still found time to read for my information(not tooting my horn or anything but trying to explain that even folks who have very little time in their lives can make time if the thing is of value to them....just turn off the TV for a bit and settle down for a good read instead). 

If you want it badly enough you'll take the time to read it, if not, it's not too valuable to you.

That may seem like a hard line to take but it's exactly as you describe...it's like expecting someone else to do all the work for you simply because you want it and they seem to have more time than you, apparently, so it's okay to impose on more of their time and efforts. 

Some days I can be gracious about it and it doesn't bother me to repeat it over and over....and some days it just hits me wrong that someone feels that entitled to the hard won information without working for it in the least little bit.  Google is our friend and quite often if you just Google the information the appropriate post will be in the options that have been searched. 

Please forgive me for my impatience with that kind of attitude but it's just being honest...it does get to me at times.  Now that I have more time on my hands I don't mind donating it to help others on here, but sometimes a certain way a person asks for the information~usually prefaced by their statement that they don't want to do any reading for it but would love for you to type many words for them all the same~kind of ruffles my feathers. 

That right there is why I took a day and did it. I don't mind answering questions, but on a single site, we literally had all the same questions over and over and over. Writing it once and posting it will save some time, I hope. I don't want folks to not have answers, but gollee......

 

[Beekissed]

I have read lots of info. I have chicks coming in 3-4 days and only about a week ago did I read about fermented food for the first time. I tried to glean the info. I found this particular thread through the search. I knew it would take a few days to do the fermenting and I had a few questions I couldn't find the answers to. I thought if I read the 353 pages I might find the answers but I might not so I just simply stepped out of my comfort zone to ask. My questions were answered and I was very grateful then others got on and stated how lazy I was not to read all the pages and find the info for myself that they were tired of answering the same questions over and over. I am a nurse and I help people as well. I do not help them and then insult them in front of the world wide web at the same time. That is not much help at all. Even though I rarely made any post I felt like I had kind of a family here. I could have answered some of the questions even though I have never owned a chicken because I have read so much that you guys have written.Trying to humiliate people is not helping them.

You are right. Don't blame anyone else here but me for the way you've been treated, though....everyone's been very helpful except for me. I apologize for my attitude towards your post and it was wrong of me to use you for an example of something that always rubs me the wrong way. I hope you will forgive my rudeness and crankiness about your post. I am sorry.

 

[beverly evans]

I was just looking at one of the other vids on CX of the same age as mine and couldn't help comparing their living situations to the ones in my coop....muddy, poopy floor, no sunlight to bask in and overfed to the point of bulging.... he's talking of caponizing these birds but I can't imagine why one would do that when they won't get old enough for it to matter anyway. There's no way he's getting these meaties to 10 mo. of age if they are already so overfed they are bulging on both ends.

They seem stimuli deprived; overly fascinated by a sound on the other side of the wall?