Fermented Feeds

[Joanmcm]

Thanks! Looking forward to it.

 

[RoseMarie1]

im learning about fermentation in biology and its helping me alot with ff when were finished woth the chapter ill sum it up and pass it on to yall

oh cool I'd love to hear what you learned.

 

[moomoodiddy]

ok so in cellular respiration which is the break down of glucose to energy in cells there r two ways to break it down, the normal way is with oxygen (aerobic) but when oxygen is not present (anaerobic) it has to ferment in order to break down energy, in animals fermentation produces lactic acid which is what makes muscles burn when u work out too much and in plants produces ethyl alcohol and carbon dioxide. Anaerobic is not as efficient as aerobic (it only produces enough energy to repeat the process with no profit) so I guess in fermenting chicken feed we r breaking down the food for them so they can use their energy to stay perty and healthy

 

[Joanmcm]

The chickens love it. Thanks for sharing.

 

[RoseMarie1]

ok so in cellular respiration which is the break down of glucose to energy in cells there r two ways to break it down, the normal way is with oxygen (aerobic) but when oxygen is not present (anaerobic) it has to ferment in order to break down energy, in animals fermentation produces lactic acid which is what makes muscles burn when u work out too much and in plants produces ethyl alcohol and carbon dioxide. Anaerobic is not as efficient as aerobic (it only produces enough energy to repeat the process with no profit) so I guess in fermenting chicken feed we r breaking down the food for them so they can use their energy to stay perty and healthy

well you know that makes a lot of sense! They don't have to use their energy to break it down so much less stress on their bodies.

 

[moomoodiddy]

yep u got it

 

[Brada Puhi]

Aloha kākou,

I like this thread. Only talking about FF.

Personally, I never used ACV. Just let it sit in water for 3 days and it should be rockin and a rollin.

Once you get the good bacteria dominating, you donʻt need as much water.

I stir the big batch then pour into my feeding pitcher and let it sit until morning. In the morning, it has settled and I pour the water on the top back into the big batch. The rest is not too liquidy after you stir it.

Shooooootz then. Check you guys later,

Puhi

 

[RoseMarie1]

Aloha kākou,

I like this thread. Only talking about FF.

Personally, I never used ACV. Just let it sit in water for 3 days and it should be rockin and a rollin.

Once you get the good bacteria dominating, you donʻt need as much water.

I stir the big batch then pour into my feeding pitcher and let it sit until morning. In the morning, it has settled and I pour the water on the top back into the big batch. The rest is not too liquidy after you stir it.

Shooooootz then. Check you guys later,

Puhi

yeah I didn't add the acv to mine either. Just water and my layer crumbles.

 

[pdirt]

Peter, did you try again with different feed and have success? If the Layena feed did have preservatives in it, that might have been the issue. I'm not an expert on preservatives, but I think they generally are meant to inhibit microbial activity, which would include both the good and bad kinds of bacteria.

Yeah I used bubbies sauer kraut; it's a live culture non pasteurized product... For 3 days or so there was plenty of water above the feed then on the fourth it was all churning and bubbling... Used Purina layena. I think this week I'm gonna head to a local feed mill and jut try again with some whole grains. Maybe use a clear plastic food bucket so I can see a little more of what's going on..

Kakayoni, personally I would hold off on chics and FF, there's a lot of variables possible such as alcohol, bad acteria etc possible. A pullet or hen can probably deal with a bad batch or two but could be bad news for a chic... Just my opinion... I suppose it all depends on how confident you are in your fermentation consistency...

 

[RoseMarie1]

Peter, did you try again with different feed and have success? If the Layena feed did have preservatives in it, that might have been the issue. I'm not an expert on preservatives, but I think they generally are meant to inhibit microbial activity, which would include both the good and bad kinds of bacteria.

I know mine was a mess when I used the Layena feed. It was soupy and stuck like glue to the scoop. I couldn't believe how soupy it was and no consistency at all to it. I am using about 2 scoops of it at a time mixing it in with my other food using VERY little of it to my other food just to get it used up.