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Hi Deb.......Oh and by the way.... new here just reading up on Fermented Feeds..... Hi everyone
deb
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Hi Deb.......Oh and by the way.... new here just reading up on Fermented Feeds..... Hi everyone
deb
Lard is a food group..... LOL... Also if you get a chance to visit a real butcher shop see if you cant get some Beef tallow for deep frying.... OH MY GAWD..... There are a few restaurants catering to Localvores here in San Diego and they fry french fries in Tallow.... Havent tasted it yet the places are too pricy and trendy nowadays. If you have the opportunity look up Lard rendering on Youtube. Not only do you get a product with an incredible stable shelf life you also get the benefits of CRACKLINS.... Best Homer simpson voice ahhhhhhh... I am ramping up for swiching over to Paleo foods. Cant do Atkins but I feel Paleo is a better fit for me.... FWIW all fresh or minimally processed foods. Local grown is best. AND sigh I cant garden so doing judicious shopping at good Grocerystores is for me. I would love to buy in a quarter share of a steer for locally grown beef I still may....@Perchie.Girl... Last night I fell asleep in my chair early then woke up and went to bed. In the process I spilled a glass of tea and had to clean that up then got me another one, like I really needed the first one. lol Then I got to bed and was froze to death so tossed and turned for a good while, then had to get up and get a blanket... so I was awake for a while to say the least. lol
I agree with you and I think all this "processed JUNK" is what is wrong with a lot of our health. I talk to my elderly mom about this topic a lot, about what they ate and all that. I find how things were done in "the olden days" so interesting. Sure it was harder, but it was so much better. They ate all the real fat (lard), bread, etc and didn't have as many ailments as we seem to have today and the population wasn't nearly as overweight. I read a report a while back stating that lard isn't as bad as they once said it was. I figure if it was good enough back then it's good enough today so I started buying it again. I don't use all the heavily processed oils. The only oils to be found in my house are lard, coconut oil, olive oil and real butter. But it is a BIG step to try to have the right food to eat all the time, very difficult!
Before I lost my flock I had guinea eggs coming out of my ears. They Were the regular sized guineas not the jumbos. Their eggs were about the size of a largish bantam or something between a Bantam and LF egg. They are incredibly rich would make eggcellent pound cake for sure. The deal with Guinea eggs is they have less white in proportion. Fried up for breakfast..... OH yummy.... But it takes one and a half to make a LF egg so if you normally eat two for breakfast try three.@Perchie.Girl... I'd like to try one of those jumbo guineas. I've never tried guinea or guinea eggs. I'd also like to have some in hopes they will deal with some of the snakes around here and be an alarm for the chickens. McMurray Hatchery has them.
Dang...can't even find a smiley for the thought of that......agreed BF......
Put the clothes in the dryer with nothing. Those dryer sheets leave their stuff in your dryer and it lasts a long time. When my clothes start coming out with static I put a half sheet in there for the next load and you'd be just amazed at how long that lasts. Probably why the other stuff seems to "work" so well. Because it's already being taken care of by the dryer sheets you were using.Okay my ladies of wisdom, I am out of dryer sheets. I don't want to go into town just to buy some. Any suggestions on alternatives that will keep static out of my clothes and make them soft?
So glad to see you!Hi Deb.......
Lard is a food group..... LOL... Also if you get a chance to visit a real butcher shop see if you cant get some Beef tallow for deep frying.... OH MY GAWD..... There are a few restaurants catering to Localvores here in San Diego and they fry french fries in Tallow.... Havent tasted it yet the places are too pricy and trendy nowadays. If you have the opportunity look up Lard rendering on Youtube. Not only do you get a product with an incredible stable shelf life you also get the benefits of CRACKLINS.... Best Homer simpson voice ahhhhhhh... I am ramping up for swiching over to Paleo foods. Cant do Atkins but I feel Paleo is a better fit for me.... FWIW all fresh or minimally processed foods. Local grown is best. AND sigh I cant garden so doing judicious shopping at good Grocerystores is for me. I would love to buy in a quarter share of a
Lard is a food group..... LOL... Also if you get a chance to visit a real butcher shop see if you cant get some Beef tallow for deep frying.... OH MY GAWD..... There are a few restaurants catering to Localvores here in San Diego and they fry french fries in Tallow.... Havent tasted it yet the places are too pricy and trendy nowadays. If you have the opportunity look up Lard rendering on Youtube. Not only do you get a product with an incredible stable shelf life you also get the benefits of CRACKLINS.... Best Homer simpson voice ahhhhhhh... I am ramping up for swiching over to Paleo foods. Cant do Atkins but I feel Paleo is a better fit for me.... FWIW all fresh or minimally processed foods. Local grown is best. AND sigh I cant garden so doing judicious shopping at good Grocerystores is for me. I would love to buy in a quarter share of a steer for locally grown beef I still may....
Before I lost my flock I had guinea eggs coming out of my ears. They Were the regular sized guineas not the jumbos. Their eggs were about the size of a largish bantam or something between a Bantam and LF egg. They are incredibly rich would make eggcellent pound cake for sure. The deal with Guinea eggs is they have less white in proportion. Fried up for breakfast..... OH yummy.... But it takes one and a half to make a LF egg so if you normally eat two for breakfast try three.
From what I have been told is Guinea is leaner and all dark meat so you have to cook like wild game. A friend of mine processed about seven culls from her breeding flock. Freezer camp then she cooked one stuffed like turkey Moist heat meaning the pan was tented with foil..... She said it was awesome but the birds dressed out small. AND she was raising them up without the thought of fattening them up for processing.....
Her recommendations are what decided me to try jumbos the next time I raise up a flock.
deb
Story here. I have always been told I have high cholesterol. One doctor put me on statins. Well, I went all "country" and decided to consume nothing but natural animal fats and take my own self off those statin drugs. What is supposed to then happen is that your cholesterol shoots up to a million whatevers and you die. I didnt' die. In fact, when I INSISTED that my doctor do another cholesterol screening.. it wasn't all that high. Ok maybe a point or two above "fine" on bad cholesterol, but WAY WAY WAY above OMG SHE'S AWESOME on the good cholesterol. So yeah, all lard and beef tallow here, thanksverymuchok.
PS - there is no conclusive evidence that you will in fact have a heart attack and die because of high cholesterol. And statins are not considered helpful if you have high cholesterol unless you have already had a heart attack, which I have not.
Does anyone know if tomato leaves are bad for chickens? I have two tomato plants that got a late start and never really did anything. They're still plenty green and succulent but I figure its about time to pull them out and maybe plant some fodder beets in the bed for fall.
Oh and by the way.... new here just reading up on Fermented Feeds..... Hi everyone
deb
AGreed Four Thousand percent. Don't think you mentioned the giggle "chicken math" here too but that really gets me as well. Picture the above scenarios and then having more and more dumped in there cause they "love" them. Ugh. I love mine and that's why I thinned my flock upon moving rather than adding more.
Truer words were never spoken...they ARE chick mills, no different from puppy mills. I just picked up 6 very poorly, parasite infested roosters being raised in hellish conditions because someone has an Easy Bake oven(aka incubator) in their house and sells silkie chicks...but also likes to play around with other breeds as well. But..can't bear to kill her own chickens. To hear her casually talk about chickens dying for no reason, getting eaten by coons (she has two dogs who also kill them so they can't guard the chickens...one is a GP), as if all these things just come with the territory and there really isn't a thing anyone can do to stop it all.I agree. I have to wonder what those people do with all of those chicks when they talk about keeping their incubator(s) full all the time. I wonder do they really have a market for all of those chickens? If they do I want in on it! I wonder if they even consider the future welfare of all of those chicks they hatch out? It's kind of like a "puppy mill" but even on a bigger scale. They sure don't seem like people who would want to kill and eat any of them. Kinda sad.
Okay my ladies of wisdom, I am out of dryer sheets. I don't want to go into town just to buy some. Any suggestions on alternatives that will keep static out of my clothes and make them soft?
Have you guys tried the homemade laundry powder or detergent? Now that I think about it, I have actually been out of dryer sheets for probably 3 months but my clothes were still soft and I never had a problem with static...hmmm. But I don't have many "fancy" clothes to wash either. lol I bought some more dryer sheets the other day but it was because I read that if you rub one on you it helps keep mosquitos away.
I have a question Of "you ladies of wisdom", I have these 25 meaties and am feeding them 12 on 12 off, with starter grower. They like to take the skin off my fingers before I can get it in the tractor/brooder lol. I'm about to start with FF as well, so the question is how do you judge how much feed to put in there? with the crumbles you just keep on filling it til 12 hours are up, is it the same with FF? I'm not sure how much protein is in "fingers" but if I'm not careful they will be well fed... This my 2nd year with meatys, 15 last year and supposed to be 30 this year but 7 0r 8 croaked and 1 has a bad leg, these birds are weird, like spooky unnatural they more than quadrupled in size in 3 weeks. they ain't right.
Walt
Where is that Bee when you need her...Personally, I would switch them to fermented feed asap and start them out on 3 feedings/day - all they can clean up in 15 minutes. I'd also cut back the light during the day unless it got too cool. Of course small chicks need the heat but I don't think they need it as hot as long as is generally practiced. You don't want to cause them to get pasty butt or sick but I think they feather out quicker when they are kept a little cooler after that first couple weeks. Bee said that she had good luck with making them free range all day then only feeding them at night, all they can clean up in 15 minutes. They will grow a little slower that way but you won't have as many health problems with them (leg problems, ascites, etc).
Keep in mind that I haven't done meaties, this is just what I have learned on this thread... so better advise will come. lol if you need to kickstart some ff you can add some buttermilk and in 12 hours it should be going good.