Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[WalkingWolf1]

Where is a good place to order it? Whenever I get some money, I'll have to give it a try.

LB -- If you know someone that currently incubates kefir you can get a start from their grains. If, like me, you are on your own, then you can order some from here: http://timelesshealth.net/kefir/caucasus_kefir_grains.html I found it to be reasonably affordable for getting started. For a couple bucks more you can get his DVD on Kefir. I opted just for the grains as half the fun on endeavors is figuring out "your" path through the maze. Good Luck.

 

[armorfirelady]

13 years ago & no I honestly don't remember the name. I want to say it started with a "z". I know it wasn't a sulfa or cipro antibiotic since I'm allergic to them lol

 

[BCMaraniac]

13 years ago & no I honestly don't remember the name. I want to say it started with a "z". I know it wasn't a sulfa or cipro antibiotic since I'm allergic to them lol

Was it oral or IV?

 

[Triple Willow]

That description gave me such a visual that I laughed out loud!  I can just see TW making that rooster eat popcorn...for his own good.  (smack, smack!) 

A Popcorn Summit Bee, a Popcorn Summit! That's all we need! LOL

 

[Beekissed]

A Popcorn Summit Bee, a Popcorn Summit! That's all we need! LOL

Wouldn't the world be a better place if everyone just resorted to a Popcorn Summit to resolve all differences?

Toby and I were picking out a movie for his last night and deciding on how to spice the popcorn just this morning. And, just like a guy, he wants an action film while I think it would be more appropriate to watch a chick flick.

 

[WalkingWolf1]

Ever since that prolonged time on antibiotics I've had horrible stomach problems and tinnitus. I can't get my gut back to normal no matter what I have tried and the tinnitus is here to stay says the dr.

Sorry to hear it AFL. Tinnitus can be maddening -- much like hiccups that cannot be stopped. What you've described is a GI tract that has never gotten back on tract (not including the tinnitus here -- but may be?). I work in the medical field (I don't just play one on TV

) and I've seen folks struggle with this issue, sometimes for years (or forever). Have seen various therapeutics prescribed and countless "home" remedies tried as well. Just gonna throw this out there -- have you ever tried kefir? (I KNOW I just got started with kefir and the new kid thinks it'll cure everything !!

) I am a pharmacist in a hospital (I only say this to give insight on my viewpoint) and I have read up on kefir for several months now and it does seem like it has what our guts may be lacking in our modern environment. If it doesn't help then no harm / no foul. Wishing you the very best and may I offer a prayer that the New Year finds you make progress on your long-standing burden.

 

[Triple Willow]

About the tinnitus... working in real loud noise probably helped me get it. I've took some antibiotics but not much. I have took anti-inflamatories quite a bit - ibuprofen, tylenol, a little bit of aspirin. I believe blood pressure and stress just might make it worse. The past couple days mine has been crazy! Mine started about, maybe seven years ago. I believe it started after I was out of the job with all the loud noise. When it first starts it is AWFUL! But I have adjusted to it well I guess. I don't really notice it unless it get real bad. Sometimes you have to turn the tv up louder than it is to hear it. lol

 

[Triple Willow]

    Wouldn't the world be a better place if everyone just resorted to a Popcorn Summit to resolve all differences? 

Toby and I were picking out a movie for his last night and deciding on how to spice the popcorn just this morning.  And, just like a guy, he wants an action film while I think it would be more appropriate to watch a chick flick. 

Personally, I think bacon and tomato sandwiches w/ mayo are the answer to world peace - but I guess not for pigs though huh? lol Poor Toby, he may run away before morning! I would! lol

...if any of you see a big roo running down the road pick him up and keep on driving! He will love you for it. LOL

 

[Triple Willow]

All this Kefir talk... I am going to order me some grains TOMORROW! I have been aiming to for months but kept putting it off and then just forgot about it. Tomorrow!!! Now if I can find some goat milk.

 

[Beekissed]

I agree! One of the most common side effects of the use of broad spectrum antibiotics is a yeast infection. It can be bad and evidence in an acute manner like thrush or chlostridium difficile( c. diff.) and even vaginal yeast infection~ or it can be a more systemic, low level of yeast that can affect many body systems and tissues. A fungal/yeast infection is one of the hardest things to get out of your body for various reasons and it's also the hardest to convince the doctor that you may need an antifungal drug...these are pretty hard on the liver and so they are cautious to administer them.

Many believe that most things diagnosed as cancer are just fungal growths that are improperly diagnosed by the medical field...some believe that is quite intentional, as there is very little money to be had on treating fungus and billions to be made on the cancer industry. One saying is that when they evaluate biopsies they don't look for fungus and so they don't see it, as cancer and fungus are often very, very similar..."if you don't look up, you'll never see a duck" sort of thinking.

You can live for years upon years being a yeastie and have any number of symptoms you treat in a palliative manner, all the while ascribing the symptoms to allergies, irritable bowel syndrome, chronic sinusitis, migraines, arthritis, chronic fatigue, chronic lung infections, chronic halitosis, etc. A yeastie person will often crave sweets or starches, which feeds the yeast and also creates more yeast that signals for more sugar and it's a vicious cycle. That cycle needs to stop in order to help starve out that colonization.

One natural antifungal that I've found effective over and over is olive leaf extract~great stuff! Another way to combat harmful yeast infections is with the use of beneficial yeast cultures that can inhibit the overgrowth of the baddies, just like in our chickens.