First Aid Kit Contents

It was no problem really. I had been meaning to make that list to put on my budding website anyway, and really it's a good checklist to look at before going to the feedstore.
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On the ingredients, Alucoat or Alushield is an aerosol wound dressing that you spray on top of your antiseptics both to dry the area, keep the wound clean and shielded, and prevent a certain amount of flies. I had heard alot about it, but hadn't had a chance to use it until this weekend when my mare cut herself up badly and had to be sent home with some.

Having used it a few days now, I feel it's absolutely brilliant! The old product I used to use was Furox (a nitrofurazone spray) but they don't make it any more (and who knows if they ever will again). The beauty of it was that, like this, it sprayed on wet but dried instantly to a powder. That helps absorb seepage, prevent flies from being attracted to goop, etc. This product really keeps the dirt out.

Ivermectin drop on is actually pour-on. It's a cattle product for worming via blood by dropping drops on the skin where it absorbs into them very very quickly. Most parasites that are in the body, and any that are external that take the blood, are killed quickly by it. Ivomec is the main brand, but I prefer generic for the price - Aspen is the brand I bought last time 250 ml for $14. It takes 1-5 drops per bird (on the skin) to worm with. The only thing about it is that you really should worm with a weaker wormer first - like Wazine - and then on the 2 week repeat use ivermectin> Then I use it 2x's yearly. Using the weaker wormer first kills part of the worms, roundworms, but not all. That way the bird isn't overcome by a heavy load of dead worms trying to leave the body all at once. All wormers usually require a 2 week withdrawal time (no meat, no eggs). Ivomec is labeled for 14 day with drawal in cattle, I'd assume the same in chickens although I feel the eggs are safe for home use. But with worms, I'm thinking that dead worms shed through the cloaca - I would want to wait 2 weeks to let them all pass with ANY wormer.

Penicillin G Procaine (or other penicillin injectable) is an antibiotic meant for a few respiratory illness, but is best for skin-type lesions, wounds, infections. I keep it on hand in case I have an animal attack or a big wound. It's good for secondary skin infections if you have something come up from Pox, etc - a sore gone bad. Pen G Procaine only needs to be used every other day because of its strength. There's some talk about Pen G less effective because it's every other day, and Pen being better - but there's sometimes a practical consideration for people who are squeamish about shots and prefer every other day rather than daily. So it's a toss up. Here, Pen G is the one I can get readily at the feedstore where other Pen's I can't a s often.

LS50 is a strong antibiotic. It's actually Lincomycin and Spectinomycin put together. Lincomycin has long been hailed by poultrymen and livestock men alike as being quite an effective drug. The spectinomycin is one of the most effective drug at the moment for Mycoplasma disease. It's also effective against coliform bacteria (E. coli, etc diarrhea type illnesses not attributed to cocci). It can be used as a water solution.

Corid and Sulmet are both coccidiocides. Corid is amprolium, the same medication in medicated chick starter, but in a "-cide" strength rather than "-stat". It's not an antibiotic, only an anti-coccidial. Sulmet is also a coccidiostat, but also has antibiotic action because it's a sulfamide drug. It's harder on the bird but more broad spectrum, including activity against E. coli if you have older birds that are showing vague symptoms. It's also useful against FC (fowl cholera).

Tylan can be used in place of LS50, and for FC it can be used in place of Sulmet. In fact I recommend Tylan but only injectable over Sulmet for Fowl Cholera, but not everyone feels comfortable with injections. And then again, sometimes people can't really tell if they have fowl Cholera or Pasteurella instead (in which case I'd go back to Sulmet which is labeled for Pasteurella). I wouldn't recommend the waterbased Tylan because of the way it works in poultry it's not as effective as injectable. I know quite a few poultry men and women who feel that way from experience. If I'm going to use something like that, i don't want ANY chance of less effect and thus possible resistance.

On the syringes and needles, you can usually get those at feedstores. The larger syringes often come without needles. (Many good feedstores sell separate needles so you can pick what you need). Few syringes come with attached needles. Thankfully. I use the big syringes for flushing out wounds vigorously. That gets dirt out, makes sure that iodine/water solution is pushed way into every crevice. It's the way the vets taught me to irrigate wounds.

The 3 cc's often come with something like a 22-25 gauge needle (for cat/dog use) that can be screwed off. If I'm using Penicillin, I take off the smaller needle and replace it with a 16g needle which is thicker. Pen is large particles of medicine in solution and very thick when properly refrigerated. In order to make sure I get particles AND solution (not just liquid) , use a larger syringe. Also makes it easier to inject.

And yes, Wazine does only kill roundworms - but it's necessary in a flock. You only "withdraw" for 14 days with it - it's quite safe. Don't eat meat and eggs for 2 weeks after using. That's all wormers, really.

When you do worm, I do recommend Wazine first. They won't be laying or eaten for 2 weeks. Roundworms are the most common worm of the barnyard (and the easiest of which to get a heavy infestation). So you want to get those down first. Then I wouldn't use ivermectin til says 5 months, just before laying. Honestly I probably wouldn't worm any babies until three months here. But I keep babies on wire for a while, not many cases of worms particularly because of my worming program (wazine/ivermectin first, at three-four months, then ivermectin or levamisole twice yearly thereafter).

By the way, if you're shopping, try the dollar store for the gauze, hydrogen peroxide, popsicle sticks or tongue depressors, etc. And while you're at Walmart, ask them for a couple of free paint stirring sticks.
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ON my list, I've taken a while to build it up. It's too expensive to do all at once. Buy buying something here, a med next month, an ointment on the next feed run, etc has helped to build up a collection of stuff that has served me from everything from a small cut, to fully broken goose legs, to dog mauls. There has to be SOME relief from the stress when you have an ill bird. Having the feeling of at least some control ("I have something for that!") is quite a good sensation.

Plus, in my experience, chickens and horses read calendars. They see when the holiday is, and then they get sick after 5 o'clock on the day before. Particularly on big holidays when NO one is open!
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For example, 5:30 p.m. July 3rd, my mare is dreadfully injured. No vets open, no feedstores open. yay. The med cabinet served me well til my vet would come out for me the next day.

They ALWAYS know, and I hate feeling like I can't do anything.
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They do indeed.

When I'm not busy, I just go snooping trough the cattle section and other sections to see what exactly they have - just in case I ever need something I've not looked for specifically before. That way in a pinch, I can say "Oh I remember seeing that at _______"

Of course, I just love feedstores and all the little bits of things they have in there. It's sort of a fun thing for me to do.
 
Thank you threehorses. I had a lot of driving to do today and I was thinking about your answers to my post and I'm wondering if you would want to write a book using the knowledge you have and experience? I'm not a publisher so don't worry.

Before getting my chickens I read every book I could get my hands on. The library even special ordered some for me. Nothing I read was a practical and to the point as you are. There is a lot of medications out there and a lot of diseases. I would think that a practical guide would be wonderful. I certainly would buy it. My books describe impacted crop and sour crop and prolapse but none of them suggest a treatment. The available meds are wonderful but lets face it a lot of the store I go to have teenagers working in them and have no idea what to recommend. I also would like to see a clear concise time table when it is necessary to change feed to the next level and when to worm and what to use.

Just a thought. Oh and by the way...I'm a nurse and my chicken first aid kit has more in it than my human first aid kit.

Lots of love and best of health to you and your mare. I will keep her in my prayers tonight.
 
Thank you for your vote of confidence. I could call the book "don't make all the mistakes I did - making lemonade from lemons for fun and profit"
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I've read a lot of books, too - grew up reading a poultry health text book as a kid (I was a strange child). I confess I still read them - I have a boxful now.

But I didn't really find any hands on advice that was practical and usable in new books. And not everyone has a meds arsenal, and honestly most things don't require a meds arsenal! There are so many basics that people don't know, because they didn't have a mom to lead them around a chicken yard and say "this is why this is". I had that and I still made enough mistakes to write a book just on those. So I'm considering it, honestly. Thanks for the support.

LOL about your chicken first aid kit. Yea, I steal from the chicken kit for myself. Sad. My first aid kit is allergy meds, Advil, immodium, and an icepack. Well and my chicken's yogurt.
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Oh and apparently ivermectin as I wormed myself today. YAY

And thanks for the well wishes for the mare. The vet did such a beautiful job that I actually photographed it.
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(I'm a strange adult, too.) Still it's one of those injuries that was so dreadfully placed and bad that no one will believe it looking at her stitches. She's the best patient I've ever had, so I lucked out. Thank you for the prayers.

She and I are both getting to be "old mares".
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Take care! And thanks for making my night.!!
 
Cornstarch is good to put on birds to stop bleeding and promote clotting. I used to have a wild baby Mourning Dove that survived a hawk attack and the vet cut off the broken end of her wing and sewed her up at what would be our elbow. It was a close one and there wasn't much skin to cover the stump so when she freaked out and flapped her wings it would open up and she'd bleed. I put on cornstarch to stop the bleeding. We had her for 5 years so it did a good job.
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Great thread, thanks for all the great ideas!! I too have horses and was looking for info on a chicken first aid kit, be prepared or else what can go wrong, will go wrong with the horses at least., lol...
 
It was no problem really.  I had been meaning to make that list to put on my budding website anyway, and really it's a good checklist to look at before going to the feedstore. /img/smilies/smile.png[/IMG thanks for the info


On the ingredients, Alucoat or Alushield is an aerosol wound dressing that you spray on top of your antiseptics both to dry the area, keep the wound clean and shielded, and prevent a certain amount of flies.  I had heard alot about it, but hadn't had a chance to use it until this weekend when my mare cut herself up badly and had to be sent home with some. 


Having used it a few days now, I feel it's absolutely brilliant!  The old product I used to use was Furox (a nitrofurazone spray) but they don't make it any more (and who knows if they ever will again).  The beauty of it was that, like this, it sprayed on wet but dried instantly to a powder.  That helps absorb seepage, prevent flies from being attracted to goop, etc.  This product really keeps the dirt out. 


Ivermectin drop on is actually pour-on.  It's a cattle product for worming via blood by dropping drops on the skin where it absorbs into them very very quickly.  Most parasites that are in the body, and any that are external that take the blood, are killed quickly by it.  Ivomec is the main brand, but I prefer generic for the price - Aspen is the brand I bought last time 250 ml for $14.  It takes 1-5 drops per bird (on the skin) to worm with.  The only thing about it is that you really should worm with a weaker wormer first - like Wazine - and then on the 2 week repeat use ivermectin>  Then I use it 2x's yearly.  Using the weaker wormer first kills part of the worms, roundworms, but not all.  That way the bird isn't overcome by a heavy load of dead worms trying to leave the body all at once.  All wormers usually require a 2 week withdrawal time (no meat, no eggs).   Ivomec is labeled for 14 day with drawal in cattle, I'd assume the same in chickens although I feel the eggs are safe for home use.  But with worms, I'm thinking that dead worms shed through the cloaca - I would want to wait 2 weeks to let them all pass with ANY wormer. 


Penicillin G Procaine (or other penicillin injectable) is an antibiotic meant for a few respiratory illness, but is best for skin-type lesions, wounds, infections.  I keep it on hand in case I have an animal attack or a big wound.  It's good for secondary skin infections if you have something come up from Pox, etc - a sore gone bad.  Pen G Procaine only needs to be used every other day because of its strength.  There's some talk about Pen G less effective because it's every other day, and Pen being better - but there's sometimes a practical consideration for people who are squeamish about shots and prefer every other day rather than daily.  So it's a toss up.  Here, Pen G is the one I can get readily at the feedstore where other Pen's I can't a s often.


LS50 is a strong antibiotic.  It's actually Lincomycin and Spectinomycin put together.  Lincomycin has long been hailed by poultrymen and livestock men alike as being quite an effective drug.  The spectinomycin is one of the most effective drug at the moment for Mycoplasma disease.  It's also effective against coliform bacteria (E. coli, etc diarrhea type illnesses not attributed to cocci).  It can be used as a water solution.


Corid and Sulmet are both coccidiocides.  Corid is amprolium, the same medication in medicated chick starter, but in a "-cide" strength rather than "-stat".  It's not an antibiotic, only an anti-coccidial.  Sulmet is also a coccidiostat, but also has antibiotic action because it's a sulfamide drug.  It's harder on the bird but more broad spectrum, including activity against E. coli if you have older birds that are showing vague symptoms.  It's also useful against FC (fowl cholera). 


Tylan can be used in place of LS50, and for FC it can be used in place of Sulmet.  In fact I recommend Tylan but only injectable over Sulmet for Fowl Cholera, but not everyone feels comfortable with injections.  And then again, sometimes people can't really tell if they have fowl Cholera or Pasteurella instead (in which case I'd go back to Sulmet which is labeled for Pasteurella).   I wouldn't recommend the waterbased Tylan because of the way it works in poultry it's not as effective as injectable.  I know quite a few poultry men and women who feel that way from experience.  If I'm going to use something like that, i don't want ANY chance of less effect and thus possible resistance.


On the syringes and needles, you can usually get those at feedstores.  The larger syringes often come without needles.  (Many good feedstores sell separate needles so you can pick what you need).  Few syringes come with attached needles.  Thankfully.   I use the big syringes for flushing out wounds vigorously.  That gets dirt out, makes sure that iodine/water solution is pushed way into every crevice.  It's the way the vets taught me to irrigate wounds.


The 3 cc's often come with something like a 22-25 gauge needle (for cat/dog use) that can be screwed off.  If I'm using Penicillin, I take off the smaller needle and replace it with a 16g needle which is thicker.  Pen is large particles of medicine in solution and very thick when properly refrigerated.  In order to make sure I get particles AND solution (not just liquid) , use a larger syringe.  Also makes it easier to inject. 


And yes, Wazine does only kill roundworms - but it's necessary in a flock.  You only "withdraw" for 14 days with it - it's quite safe.  Don't eat meat and eggs for 2 weeks after using.  That's all wormers, really.


When you do worm, I do recommend Wazine first.  They won't be laying or eaten for 2 weeks.  Roundworms are the most common worm of the barnyard (and the easiest of which  to get a heavy infestation).  So you want to get those down first.  Then I  wouldn't use ivermectin til says 5 months, just before laying.  Honestly I probably wouldn't worm any babies until three months here.  But I keep babies on wire for a while, not many cases of worms particularly because of my worming program (wazine/ivermectin first, at three-four months, then ivermectin or levamisole twice yearly thereafter).


By the way, if you're shopping, try the dollar store for the gauze, hydrogen peroxide, popsicle sticks or tongue depressors, etc.  And while you're at Walmart, ask them for a couple of free paint stirring sticks.  [IMG]/img/smilies/smile.png


ON my list, I've taken a while to build it up.  It's too expensive to do all at once.  Buy buying something here, a med next month, an ointment on the next feed run, etc has helped to build up a collection of stuff that has served me from everything from a small cut, to fully broken goose legs, to dog mauls.  There has to be SOME relief from the stress when you have an ill bird.  Having the feeling of at least some control ("I have something for that!") is quite a good sensation.


Plus, in my experience, chickens and horses read calendars.  They see when the holiday is, and then they get sick after 5 o'clock on the day before.  Particularly on big holidays when NO one is open!  /img/smilies/smile.png   For example, 5:30 p.m. July 3rd, my mare is dreadfully injured. No vets open, no feedstores open.  yay.  The med cabinet served me well til my vet would come out for me the next day.


They ALWAYS know, and I hate feeling like I can't do anything.  /img/smilies/smile.png
 
I have Blue liquid. It is good general antiseptic. It will also help you ID the bird that is hurt.(it is purple). Calf Electrolytes to help them recover after and injury or shock. Vetwrap. gauze pads, and scissors. I am sure some others will add more. With what you already have and the few things I added you have everything I have now.....

is that Iodine ? Iodine is an anti-septic which sounds just like that. It might be what you have.

HONEY is the best anti-septic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial medicine which KILLS SUPER-BUGS. As in it kills antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. You can look it up, it's in all the media. I just used it on my chickens eye, just dip your finger in and dab it on. She didn't like it for a second or two and then was quiet and had blinked it in. You put it onto humans the same way, dip and dab and then you can pour drinking water over it to wash off after a few minutes or so.

Corid AND Sulmet (one for babies, one for adults)
Probios dispersible powder or Acidophilis capsules
A bottle of organic apple cider vinegar
A couple of bottles of babyfood applesauce
LS50 antibiotics
Penicillin G Procaine in the fridge

a tool box to keep this stuff in so you can have it in one place
Cuticle scissors (buy good ones - you'll use these to cut off tiny bits of flesh or trim small feathers gently around wounds)
regular scissors or "penny cutting" scissors (great for bandages and splints)
Hydrogen peroxide - a very large bottle
Betadine - a small bottle will do.
Neosporin without pain killer
terramycin ophthalmic ointment (from the feedstore - keep inside)
a spray on like Alucoat or Alushield (horse section, feedstore)
q-tips
duct tape
popsicle sticks (for application of meds, or for splints for baby chicks)
Paint-stirring sticks (bigger splints)
wrapping gauze
non-stick gauze pads
Maxi-pads (they're clean and absorb a lot of blood from wounds - not joking)
Vet-wrap a plenty! (Buy it from the feedstore - it's cheaper than the pharmacy and it comes in colors to try to make things feel more positive)
Suture material (cat or dog size - see online or at better feedstores)
Hemostats (for suturing or for plucking maggots or feathers)
tweezers
alcohol - a large container
a clean cheap white sheet (to make slings from or cover wounds if necessary)
A GOOD blood clotter like Clotisol - vet recommended and non toxic even in the beak, unlike styptics. One small bottle lasts years.
paper towels - you can throw them away, and they're clean.
non-latex gloves in bulk - a box. Sometimes you need to wear two pair.
a news paper (absorbant and makes clean up easier if you have to flush wounds)
<<<added>>> Several 3cc syringes with 22-25 gauge needles.
Several 16 gauge needles. 1 inch is fine
At least 2 10-30 cc needle-less syringes for flushing wounds vigorously

Barn supplies:
permethrin dust ("poultry dust")
ivermectin (wormer and delouser) - I prefer drop-on generic.
wazine (piperazine 17% solution - first time wormer)
a smock or something to wear when handling ill birds
a fold up cheap plastic table on which you can treat wounds and then hose off and disinfect
a clip on lamp in case you need direct lighting
an extension cord
a couple of glass jars in which to make iodine solution or keep warm water
a 5 gallon bucket to throw stuff away in that can be disinfected.
I'm not sure that I can afford the medivac helicopter for my first aid kit, is there a cheaper alternative ?

seriously, that's a cool post for covering everything.

Hydrogen peroxide - a very large bottle

Hydrogen peroxide can be very harsh. Use honey. I recognize Hydrogen peroxide in your post because THAT is the big-name active ingredient in HONEY.


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