First time Guinea Mom and Dad raising keets!

Awww, what a beautiful crew!!! Love the colors too. You just need a slate and then you would have the blue background with each version of pearling!

No, no, no, no, nohh - we don't need any more Guineas! LOL The coop is full - now I have to see if my plan to get them through the winter will work with everyone having a spot close to a heat lamp. I think I can guess, after the last 8 years with Guineas: your ideas suck, mom, we don't like it that way!
 
No, no, no, no, nohh - we don't need any more Guineas! LOL The coop is full - now I have to see if my plan to get them through the winter will work with everyone having a spot close to a heat lamp. I think I can guess, after the last 8 years with Guineas: your ideas suck, mom, we don't like it that way!
I do not provide heat in my guinea coop even when the temps get down to -30°F.
 
Well, in earnest, I am not sure. They are getting up there in age and all creatures need some comfort and do better with it, even if the strongest can survive without.
A thin bird will not make it through winter in nature. That is the way it is, but then again, a lot of us would not be alive without medical and technological support.
I know I am starting a debate - he he - but so be it.
 
Well, in earnest, I am not sure. They are getting up there in age and all creatures need some comfort and do better with it, even if the strongest can survive without.
A thin bird will not make it through winter in nature. That is the way it is, but then again, a lot of us would not be alive without medical and technological support.
I know I am starting a debate - he he - but so be it.
I don't know if @sourland knows you like I do. Over the years and especially before you joined BYC, you have posted lots of valuable information about guineas.

Not to debate, it is my opinion that providing heat prevents them from properly developing their winter feathers and acclimating to the ambient temperatures.

We are allowed to have different opinions.
 
@R2elk I totally agree with you in some respects - used to work at a fancy horse barn and they had not one, not two, but sometimes three blankets hanging on the stall door that us grunts were supposed to put on the poor creatures in winter before turn-out - these were leisure horses that were not clipped or worked hard in winter (which would warrent a blanket when cooling down after a hot work out) - some of the horses were left out in coats on warm winter days (per owners' instructions) and started to sweat! Then the blankets were rubbing them raw at the shoulders and withers and we had to put on horse-underwear - I s%&* you not! - it was pretty ridiculous and obvious that this was making the owners feel better and the horses worse.

I think it is also bad to expose animals to drastically changing conditions, such as a warm coop and a freezing run or free range time - so that is a problem for them to deal with, I think.

On the other hand, if I clip the low temps (usually 20 F around here) and bring them up to 25 or 30 F and it is 30-40 F outside during the day - I don't think I am doing them harm and may help the weaker ones a lot. They still have to adjust to the 25 to 30 F and they can do that and be fine.

Steady temps may be more important than the absolute number. With climate change, we have seen unsual and fast fluctuations here. I do use our heat lamps vigorously to counteract those, when it changes 60 degrees in a few days and then goes back to normal day/night changes.

Slow changes can be accomodated with feather growth etc.

Also, I think, for anyone reading this - we should mention, I think, that freezing wind is an absolute no-no. Do not leave your Guineas out in super cold temps when the wind blows through their feathers or you will have dead birds.
 
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@R2elk I totally agree with you in some respects - used to work at a fancy horse barn and they had not one, not two, but sometimes three blankets hanging on the stall door that us grunts were supposed to put on the poor creatures in winter before turn-out - these were leisure horses that were not clipped or worked hard in winter (which would warrent a blanket when cooling down after a hot work out) - some of the horses were left out in coats on warm winter days (per owners' instructions) and started to sweat! Then the blankets were rubbing them raw at the shoulders and withers and we had to put on horse-underwear - I s%&* you not! - it was pretty ridiculous and obvious that this was making the owners feel better and the horses worse.

I think it is also bad to expose animals to drastically changing conditions, such as a warm coop and a freezing run or free range time - so that is a problem for them to deal with, I think.

On the other hand, if I clip the low temps (usually 20 F around here) and bring them up to 25 or 30 F and it is 30-40 F outside during the day - I don't think I am doing them harm and may help the weaker ones a lot. They still have to adjust to the 25 to 30 F and they can do that and be fine.

Steady temps may be more important than the absolute number. With climate change, we have seem unusual and fast fluctuations here. I do use our heat lamps vigorously to counteract those, when it changes 60 degrees in a few days and then goes back to normal day/night changes.

Slow changes can be accommodated with feather growth etc.

Also, I think, for anyone reading this - we should mention, I think, that freezing wind is an absolute no-no. Do not leave your Guineas out in super cold temps when the wind blows through their feathers or you will have dead birds.
We have fast changing temps in the winter. We also have constant inconsistent temperatures. I have seen it go from 20°F to -20°F in a matter of hours. When it Chinooks, I have seen it go the other way just as fast.

It can be -20°F in the middle of the night and end up at 40°F during the daytime.

All of my poultry have done fine with the temperature swings. I do occasionally have a rooster that ends up with a dubbed comb from frostbite but that is about it.
 
@R2elk I love it that you provide data from your observations! It helps many people, I would think. It helps me a lot!

Frost bite, though, ouch! I know big rooster combs can get them in colder climates.

Guineas are equipped that way: they hide their wattles under a wing when it gets too cold. Love 'em for that! Did you ever have a frost bite on a Guinea or do they always protect themselves just fine?
 
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@R2elk I love it that you provide data from your observations! It helps many people, I would think. It helps me a lot!

Frost bite, though, ouch! I know big rooster combs can get them in colder climates.

Guineas are equipped that way: they hide their wattles under a wing when it gets too cold. Love 'em for that! Did you ever have a frost bite on a Guinea or do they always protect themselves just fine?
The roosters with their frost bit combs never acted like they were in any discomfort. Once they were pretty much dubbed, it didn't happen again.

I have not noticed frostbite with the guineas. On really cold nights, they completely cover their feet with their bodies and feathers and their whole heads disappear under their wings. I really should get some pics of the headless guineas sometime.

The turkeys do the same.
 

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