Foolish! Got two new hens...they're not healthy!

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Me again, have you got a vitamin / electrolyte solution to put in their water? If you don't have a poultry electrolyte, use 25 % human liquid electrolyte in their water and crush up a multi vitamin or, vitamin b in the water

 

[Resolution]

Each hen needs to be kept in a dog carrier in a dry place = ostensibly in the garage or barn on a table safe from nocturnal pests.
Each hen needs to have an entire garlic clove tucked down her gullet into her crop. Additionally, cut two or three stripes of raw ginger root about the size of the meat inside a walnut. Tuck these into the crop as well.
Now tuck four to five whole almonds or if you dont have almonds use walnuts or hazel nuts- brazil nuts are also fine- and these will of course be shelled nut meats not the whole nut in a shell.

Now each hen has a crop full of pungent stuff that will help them knock the infection back.

Inside your quarantine cages, set up no tip cat food /water dishes.
You will not be putting out water daily- i know that sounds odd- even cruel but there is a better method- and it makes for less mess.

Junglefowl those pesky wild progenitors of domestic chicks i keep bringing up- they all live in regions that become exceedingly arid during the dry season. During this period, the birds may not drink any water at all. They will be obliged to get whatever water they can from the animals that they eat and the fruits and rootlets they find.

What does that mean for you?
That means that it will be more efficient to have them consume special healing porridges which are largely water but are not so easy to tip and spill. They also require less energy to ingest.


If you choose to you an antibiotic ( and I would call Cutler's Gamebird supply ask for Carolyne for which antibiotic you should use) rather than mix it into water- instead, mix it into the syrup of some canned pears or peaches- apricots or corn - it should be sweet and it should be syrup-
measure out the exact amount they suggest on the bag- into the syrup and now mash the fruit that came in that can into tiny pieces- ( I just put it through the food processor or dice it up by hand) I then cook up some steel cut oats and make them extra runny- you can half the cooking time if you so choose- mix the medicated syrup with the fruit into the soupy steel cut oats. The next ingredients will be a live yogurt -
just a few tablespoons per serving- and TURMERIC powder- for those of you that dont want to use antibiotics you can treat them just with turmeric and fenugreek seed powders but you have to be patient and dedicated- it takes longer to actually clear it up - and you have to be prepared to hold them in their quarantine for at least one whole month-
if you stop treatment before that with spices and no antibiotics you will likely have to catch and repeat-in the future.

Regardless if you use antibiotics or not you will want to purchase some turmeric and some fenugreek seed - this is mixed into the food- ~ one table sppon of each per serving.

Give them a bit of fatty bacon every few days- or better yet- a tablespoon of tuna or sardines in oil- and powder their porridge with DE

When you do get around to giving them water- I will put out water if i have the time to stand there and make sure it doesn't get pooped in or turned over- add some cranberry concentrate to the water- make it strong- strong enough to knock out a digestive tract infection.

IF you dont want to mess with the cranberry concentrate- pick up some cranassure gel caps at the pharmacy- for human urinary tract infections- and tuck one gel cap down their gullet every four days- no matter what the ailment- I love cranassure gelcaps-

 

[AHappychick]

wow that was some great info some of which I have never read before. could you tell me where to get fenugreek seed and Turmeric its the spice right??? and how did you learn about this?

are there specific diseases that this works best with or is this just a blanket treatment for unknown ailments?

I am very interested especially in treatments I can use organically and recently tried the treatments from this post and found that although I had to put bird down it was responding to treatment better than anything else I had tried.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=135247

 

[Barn Maid Ann]

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So if you want to cull the flock and start over, will the virus or whatever causes CRD (must read up) still be on the grounds? Is there a way to be rid of it once and for all?

 

[Barn Maid Ann]

I forgot to ask.... if the birds are carriers (but not sick), I guess the eggs are safe to eat?

I don't know that mine are carriers, but they could be as I had a snotty nosed bird I brought in last year. She cleared up on her own, but has had the snotty nose once or twice more since then.

We have been eating the eggs and are still alive. I have given many away and have been thinking of selling them too.

 

[Resolution]

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Try your local Asian food store or the ethnic food aisle in a large supermarket. Many dollar stores will have plenty of both if you look closely.
Read up on fenugreek seeds and turmeric on the internet first and this will give you an indication of where in your region you will come across it. They are both integral ingredients in Southern Asian cuisine.

This treatment is a blanket treatment for upper respiratory and wasting ailments. I learned these methods as an intern for a large Japanese bird collection which included both wild and exceedingly fragile domestic breeds. This is a traditional Oriental method of treatment. I tend to trust the Asians on their holistic health practices for poultry as they domesticated them to begin with.

For Mareks I treat with Cranassure Gel Caps. It treats both the symptoms and cures the lesions.

If you are worried about or have a flock of birds with Chronic Respiratory Ailments- please read the thread on Farmer's Helper Products- this is something that I have been very concerned with for decades and brought together a team of professionals- including avian pathologists, veterinarians, zoo nutrition authorities and ornithologists- to not only investigate but generate a feasible solution- and ostensibly end the cycle of disease and infection through new management practices that begin with chicks- and no you don't have to buy the Farmer's Helper products to win the battle against these respiratory ailments but you do need to educate yourself on their origin and why they are so hard to eradicate.