Four bantams in winter, are they enough to keep warm?

thecatumbrella

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My bantam flock recently dropped from 7 to 4. This is my first year with them, and I want to make sure they'll be able to endure the winter as a small group in my setup. If not, I'll start making other arrangements.

-The Flock-
3 are Cochin (Pekin) Bantams. They'll weigh about 2 lbs, are almost pure feathers from head to toe, and have a smaller single comb. 1 is a d'Uccle. She weighs about 20 ounces, has a beards, muffs, and boots, but also a larger single comb that could be subject to frostbite.

-The Weather-
I'm in Zone 5 and winters can get into the single digits overnight. Coldest I've seen here is -20F.

-My Primary Setup-
I put polycarbonate panels around my covered run with 12" ventilation gaps at the top. My coop is inside the run. I have an Eglu Cube with wooden roost inserts for them to cover their feet and extra bedding. The Cube is surprisingly well ventilated in winter if you keep the number of chickens down. It keeps the drafts off them, and the smaller footprint (roosting side is about 2'x3') lets the birds raise the internal temp a degree or two. I've seen people mount a heated chick pad to the side wall for a little extra coziness, but I've never tested this myself. I know people will want to comment on the size of the coop, and I hear you (believe me), but it's a long story and this is what they're using right at this moment.

-Basement Setup-
I have a basement "coop" (it's a 3x8 stock tank). These birds aren't faring well on 95+ degree days, so they'll hang out in the basement setup for an afternoon and I'll put them out in the morning. I could obviously use it in the same way for winter during really cold snaps, if needed. I prefer not to, but I foolishly bought a small number of sensitive birds, so it's there for their use. I also see the irony of their basement coop being larger than their actual coop. It's a mess, I know.

-Potential Changes-
We might be able to build something for them before winter. I can't make any promises, but it would be a walk-in 5x6 that would allow for a sweeter heater above the roost bar.

Thoughts? I'm worried there's not enough bodies to keep warm. I also have zero experience overwintering bantams, so maybe they'll be fine. Let me know. And is there a minimum number of birds you would not go below?

Thanks for your help.
 
My bantam flock recently dropped from 7 to 4. This is my first year with them, and I want to make sure they'll be able to endure the winter as a small group in my setup. If not, I'll start making other arrangements.

-The Flock-
3 are Cochin (Pekin) Bantams. They'll weigh about 2 lbs, are almost pure feathers from head to toe, and have a smaller single comb. 1 is a d'Uccle. She weighs about 20 ounces, has a beards, muffs, and boots, but also a larger single comb that could be subject to frostbite.

-The Weather-
I'm in Zone 5 and winters can get into the single digits overnight. Coldest I've seen here is -20F.

-My Primary Setup-
I put polycarbonate panels around my covered run with 12" ventilation gaps at the top. My coop is inside the run. I have an Eglu Cube with wooden roost inserts for them to cover their feet and extra bedding. The Cube is surprisingly well ventilated in winter if you keep the number of chickens down. It keeps the drafts off them, and the smaller footprint (roosting side is about 2'x3') lets the birds raise the internal temp a degree or two. I've seen people mount a heated chick pad to the side wall for a little extra coziness, but I've never tested this myself. I know people will want to comment on the size of the coop, and I hear you (believe me), but it's a long story and this is what they're using right at this moment.

-Basement Setup-
I have a basement "coop" (it's a 3x8 stock tank). These birds aren't faring well on 95+ degree days, so they'll hang out in the basement setup for an afternoon and I'll put them out in the morning. I could obviously use it in the same way for winter during really cold snaps, if needed. I prefer not to, but I foolishly bought a small number of sensitive birds, so it's there for their use. I also see the irony of their basement coop being larger than their actual coop. It's a mess, I know.

-Potential Changes-
We might be able to build something for them before winter. I can't make any promises, but it would be a walk-in 5x6 that would allow for a sweeter heater above the roost bar.

Thoughts? I'm worried there's not enough bodies to keep warm. I also have zero experience overwintering bantams, so maybe they'll be fine. Let me know. And is there a minimum number of birds you would not go below?

Thanks for your help.
You know from my posts earlier that I'm very new at this, but I'm very interested in this post, since my 4 babies are all bantams.

Yours aren't liking the heat? Today, the great folks here helped me determine that I've likely got a cochin, a d'Uccle, a Sebright, and an OEGB. It is very hot here, 98 yesterday and 98 today. That's important for me to know since our summers always have these runs of intense heat where I live. I want to be prepared for when my flock goes outside and for future years.

Our winters are milder. We usually manage to stay above freezing, but again, we have our runs.

I'll be watching this post closely. Thank you for asking something I had not thought about yet!
 
You know from my posts earlier that I'm very new at this, but I'm very interested in this post, since my 4 babies are all bantams.

Yours aren't liking the heat? Today, the great folks here helped me determine that I've likely got a cochin, a d'Uccle, a Sebright, and an OEGB. It is very hot here, 98 yesterday and 98 today. That's important for me to know since our summers always have these runs of intense heat where I live. I want to be prepared for when my flock goes outside and for future years.

Our winters are milder. We usually manage to stay above freezing, but again, we have our runs.

I'll be watching this post closely. Thank you for asking something I had not thought about yet!
Some birds do better than others in the high temps. Mine also don't have their full comb and wattles, which I believe help them radiate off a bit of heat. There is zero shade of my property. Run is covered with an industrial fan and shade cloths, but without cloud cover, the temp is 5 degrees over ambient. It breached 100 this afternoon (after they were already moved inside). You really have to watch their behavior. Panting is fine. Holding wings out is fine. But pale combs, lethargy, hyperventilating, that's where I draw the line.

Glad to see another first-time bantam owner here! 😁
 
Some birds do better than others in the high temps. Mine also don't have their full comb and wattles, which I believe help them radiate off a bit of heat. There is zero shade of my property. Run is covered with an industrial fan and shade cloths, but without cloud cover, the temp is 5 degrees over ambient. It breached 100 this afternoon (after they were already moved inside). You really have to watch their behavior. Panting is fine. Holding wings out is fine. But pale combs, lethargy, hyperventilating, that's where I draw the line.

Glad to see another first-time bantam owner here! 😁
This is so good to know. It's so hot right now it's not even funny. I watch the yard birds pant and feel sorry for them.

It's funny because I always wanted bantams, and we decided we'd probably add some next year, after we established our regular flock (BBS Orpingtons coming in September), and then bantams are what I ended up with as our first babies.

I'm loving them though, and I'm enjoying learning with and from you!
 
This is so good to know. It's so hot right now it's not even funny. I watch the yard birds pant and feel sorry for them.

It's funny because I always wanted bantams, and we decided we'd probably add some next year, after we established our regular flock (BBS Orpingtons coming in September), and then bantams are what I ended up with as our first babies.

I'm loving them though, and I'm enjoying learning with and from you!
Honestly, I think large fowl are a lot easier. And if you're intending to blend the two flocks, you want your bantams to be the older top dogs. So your timing worked out perfectly!

I love my girls, but I'm not sure I would do bantams again, personally. Mine have been pretty high maintenance.
 
Honestly, I think large fowl are a lot easier. And if you're intending to blend the two flocks, you want your bantams to be the older top dogs. So your timing worked out perfectly!

I love my girls, but I'm not sure I would do bantams again, personally. Mine have been pretty high maintenance.
Hopefully I'll get lucky and have some low key bantams, lol. I did just upgrade them to a taller brooder tote because one little dude (or girl), my buff, kept jumping up and flapping its wings.

My husband is home from work now and he's about to fashion a sturdy lid, lol.
 

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