Frazzle pics?

[Tacampbell1973]

Bear with me, it's been a long time since I posted. The top picture, or 2 if delete didn't work, are of Avery, middle Addison, and last is Hope. All three siblings came from local Tractor Supply Chain I believe in April as weekids like Frizzles. I called back to inquire what breed as I knew frizzle to only describe the feather type. They couldn't tell me for sure so I Google Drive what breeds usually were commonly Frizzled. It soon became clear to me they where Cochin. I was ecstatic as I had wanted some for years. At first it was awesome. Pretty early on theyour all had frizzled feathers except the biggest one so we assumed it was a male, and named him Fonzie. He would pick the smallest ones feathers and swallowed it whole. We tried to curb it but to no avail. As they matured Fonzie became Hope, and poor Avery became sparse. The feather picking had long since stopped yet Avery's feathers stayed thin. It finally dawned on me that she must be a Frazzle. Now winter is coming and she and her sisters are inside my house for the winter to the chagrin of my husband.

 

[BeckyOB]

actually they are called extreme frizzles and they do not have feather folicle holes when they molt out the original feathers

and the extreme frizzling makes them whispy thin with and generally look wet looking

but if you have some very good cochin typed females of regular feathering then mate them to the extreme frizzle if it is a male

that way it will make several lines as each female is a line in breeding

the extreme frizzle is not able to stand the heat or the cold when it becomes a adult as the feathers are not wide enough and dense enough

here is some information on breeding frizzles

Frizzles are bred in these breed types
featherlegged
rose comb clean legged
single comb clean legged
modern games
old english games and american games
there are no bantam duck frizzles

People have gotten interested in the Frizzle breeds, with its many varities, of large fowl and bantams.

Frizzle is the BREED, the kinds of frizzles are breed type such as Cochin Frizzles, Jap Frizzls, Rock Frizzles, Silkie Frizzles and Naked Neck Frizzles and
on thru the breeds. Also there are Sabastopol Geese. They are the only frizzled feathered waterfowl.There are frizzle breeds in large fowl and bantmas.

Because good frizzles throw a certain amount of the smooths (1/2 frizzle & 1/2 regular feathered with frizzle gene)

Now you can breed the frizzles to the smooths. Smooths are the 1/2 frizzle and 1/2 regular feathered frizzles, but have the Frizzle genes. They are very important to your
breeding plan. If they are good typed do not discard them.

They have a modifying gene when bred to the frizzle side of the breeding they being disposed to a frizzle parent will then make the breeding ie: frizzle to smooth = 1/2 frizzle
and 1/2 smooths in the next generation. At least 1/3 will be smooth and 2/3 frizzle. Any ways mine always did. I never bred frizzle to frizzle as it caused so many extra curlies with not enough feather folicles to have good feathering. Narrow whispy wet looking feathers mostly what amount they did have.

Breeding frizzle to frizzle will only breed the feather folicles off the birds and make narrow whispy feathers and not good frizzles.These birds can not survive either cold weather or hot weather not enough feathers. They only can be disposed of.
You need wide frizzled feathers for a good frizzle of any breed.

You can try breeding frizzle to frizzle but most times it only is wasted space and feed you spend for nothing. In the end they are not good frizzles. Now if some one wants to start
breeding frizzles you only need one of the pair frizzled. Then the next year use the smooths that come out of the breeding back on the frizzles. The frizzle gene is dominent always when bred to straight ( no frizzle gene at all) feathered birds.

THE LEGHORNS CAN BE BRED TO THE FRIZZLE AND
MAKE LEGHORN FRIZZLES. It will take a few yrs of constant breeding for type etc. But the frizzle gene will be there.
this could be bred to a rock frizzle and then breed several yrs to perfect the leghorn breed type away from the rock type.

ALL FRIZZLES need to be bred to follow their breed type. But with frizzle feathering curling towards the head of the bird in its breed type:ie: cochin, silkie, leghorn, rock, jap, cornish etc according to the ABA breed type for each breed with frizzled feathers.

The SILKIES can be bred to the frizzles and make SILKIE FRIZZLES. What breed are you using for frizzle? Probably a Cochin Frizzle is this right?

If so then the feathers on the legs ( if using cochin frizzles, Rocks would have single comb clean legs best breed of frizzle to breed to a Leghorn regular feather bird)

of the Leghorn Frizzles, have to be bred out of the Leghorn frizzle offspring , these feathers on the legs are called stubs ( any leg
feathering on the Leghorn frizzles).Leghorns are of the Single Comb Clean Leg class.
Also the Leghorn type will need to be bred into the offspring. The tail will have to be bred into them to be Leghorn type. A rock type frizzle would be better to use with leghorns.

In the Silkie Frizzles If using a Cochin Frizzle you have to have the Silkie feathering, Silkie comb- Walnut type Mulberry color comb, the turquoise Blue earlobes,also a
crest and bearded or non bearded, and 5 toes.None of which are on Cochins.

So the frizzling has to be gotten and then go back on Silkies only with Frizzled off spring/same is true with the Leghorns, go back with Leghorns on the Frizzle off spring.Use your 1/2 frizzle and 1/2 regular feathered smooths that came out of the
cross.

I would use frizzle females on the silkie male or Leghorn male, when going to 2nd generationF-1 matings.

The frizzles can be raised alone or with the other birds. If the other birds are not ggresive. I never raised the large fowl and bantams together, so the frizzles and the modern games and rocks and what ever I had lived together except at breeding time,

Also the males were all pened seperate at all times after maturing. Then I seperated all breeding pens according to kinds and breeds for the matings. I usually kept a trio in by them selves.

Remember if breeding Cochin frizzles they need the circle of feathers pulled out gently one by one, in a 3 inch circle in diameter of the soft vent feathers, plucked from around the vent area feathers of both the male and females. So that fertilization can happen and not be wasted on the feathers.

Do you have the American Bantam Assn Standard.The new 2005 Bantam Standard has color pictures of birds. It lists all the breeds of Bantams and Bantam ducks. The 2003 APA Standard has a lot of color photos of Large fowl, bantams, waterfowl & turkeys.
These books are necessary for any breeder of any breed.

any questions email me

Wow..."they only can be disposed of"!!!! Not my frazzle rooster!!! Obviously you're a breeder and not an animal lover or even someone with a heart for living creatures! I on the other hand, believe each living creature deserves to live and live as good a life as possible! I have a frazzle rooster, Sunny who I care deeply for and take extreme good care of. I do not see him as a burden or a drain on my money! Yes, he's a lot to handle. No he didn't live inside. He lives outside with his flock... But he's well taken care of, loved and it's so sad to read reply posts like yours! Have a heart... unbelievable!!!!

 

[cgaylemedders]

Wow..."they only can be disposed of"!!!! Not my frazzle rooster!!! Obviously you're a breeder and not an animal lover or even someone with a heart for living creatures! I on the other hand, believe each living creature deserves to live and live as good a life as possible! I have a frazzle rooster, Sunny who I care deeply for and take extreme good care of. I do not see him as a burden or a drain on my money! Yes, he's a lot to handle. No he didn't live inside. He lives outside with his flock... But he's well taken care of, loved and it's so sad to read reply posts like yours! Have a heart... unbelievable!!!!

I ended up with a Frazzle. I did not know at the time. I was told it was a Frizzled Cochin, included in with 9 regular ones. Fast forward - His feathers are brittle. Molts are very hard on him. He now has signs of congestive heart failure at 1 yr 4 months. I do not use him for breeding. He has been in a pen where I just collect eggs with another rooster until he has episodes and then is kenneled where he rests, usually a couple of days.