Freecycle ad just rubbing me wrong.

[catwalk]

I doubt the parent in the Freecycle ad really needed someone to give him something to hit the kid with; he just wanted to humiliate the child. I can see him typing away, saying, "now the whole world is going to know what a bad kid you are, heh heh." My parent freely and enthusiastically shared my shortcomings and failures with anyone who would listen, preferably with me present. All that did for me was build resentment. I have since forgiven, but I still get teary when I hear someone praising their children. I believe the family who posts an ad for a paddle has bigger problems than mere discipline.

 

[beak]

I used words. So far I have 3 adult children that are in college and have never been in any kind of trouble and are honor roll students. I have 5 more to go. I can't wait to spank though. It sounds like a lot of fun and makes better kids to boot.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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Redhen from what I have read from you so far in BYC, I would say it DID work. Sometimes it takes a few years before the fruits of responsibility take hold.

 

[OlliOlliOlli]

I used to be against spanking until I became a teacher. I don't think a lot of today's parents realize, they can go to work everyday, come home at 6 or 7, and spend a couple hours with their kids, so they don't understand the amount of shaping these kids need.

I have 120 or so students and I spend 8 hours a day surrounded by kids. I am sweetly told by students better-dressed than myself about how "They'd call the police if their parents touched them" and they threaten ME and disrespect ME and my colleagues on a regular basis. I watch them walk around with huge swollen pregnant bellies at 15, with mouthes that would make a truck driver blush. I see them throw temper tantrums, throw things, mouth off, and expect the world handed to them, whether it's a passing grade, a job, a pair of $150 sneakers, etc.

If these kids were disciplined just a bit more, if some of these parents just tried a bit more to make sure that these kids were cared for, the education system and these students would not be in shambles by their 18th birthday.

 

[babymakes6]

I was spanked as a child, but not very often. I was usually pretty well-behaved, but if I was bad, I got spanked. I knew when I deserved it, and if I wasn't spanked as soon as possible, I would go crying to Mom and Dad reminding them to spank me! Stupid? Maybe, but I always felt so much better after it was over! My brother and sister used to get mad at me-because then it would be their turn, too! I really believe that the reason there is so much crime and hate now, is because the kids were not disciplined OR taught to respect others. Everyone is so happy to sue for every little thing, and children are basically left to themselves. Is it any wonder school shootings are a pretty common occurrence anymore? When I was a child (and I am only 30, BTW), I didn't dare talk back to my parents-I got my mouth washed out with soap for that! If a kid started a temper tantrum (I don't think I ever tried that!) in public, he was picked up and soundly spanked, and wasn't likely to try it again! If he was disobedient or disrespectful in school, he was disciplined and even spanked severely-often by the principal! I think it's pretty bad when you are grocery shopping and hear a child screaming "I want candy (or a toy)" and their parents try to distract them, talk them out of it, or whatever, and end up giving in because they are embarrassed at the scene their child is making.
I do think it was wrong to post that ad. I also believe beating is wrong. However, I know a few well-placed smacks, done in an attitude of love, can make a huge difference in a child's behavior-if it is done consistently.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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I was schooled by Franciscan Sisters, there is a reason a measuring stick is called a ruler. It is used to RULE, very effectively. If the Nuns could not get your attention with it you were OUT and no reimbursement on tuition. Those classrooms were very different from the classrooms of today, most times you could here a pin drop it was so quiet.

I never got smacked with it or anything else, got picked up by my ear once. I learned my lesson after that, you don't mess with the penguins. At that point in time they would hit you when you messed up, no calling parents no warnings just the smack of that ruler from any direction. I don't think anyone ever suffered any permanent damage from the smacks. Unlike the damage from underage pregnancies and drug abuse of today.

I always find it odd that the disarray our youth is in, is not considered child abuse, but responsible discipline is.

 

[wegotchickens]

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Mine had a spatula.

Mine had Kino sandals. When she said, "Don't make me take my shoe off!" other people would laugh. But not us! We'd

 

[wyo-helpmeet]

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I agree. It's sad...

 

[chickeypoo]

i got pregnant when i was 15. that was the only *mistake* i ever made. So i don't think spankings stop stuff like that. i wasn't spanked much that i can remember. but i was still terrified of my mom lol.

As for me spanking, i have to admit.. i got too abusive with my *power* towards my oldest daughter. SO, i try to control my anger and i don't spank the kids really. I have only spanked my middle one a few times but i have to say my oldest is better behaved and nicer than the middle one. Maybe i should spank my middle one more.. but it's very rare that i do.She just started to throw tantrums.. she's almost 6. and she's a tough little girl, but very soft hearted so when i raise my voice she starts to cry but she's still very strong willed.. so she goes right back to what she was doing before i yelled.

Ok, as for the ad. i think it's wrong to *actually* post it. I think the parent could have faked that it was on there if they meant it to scare the child or to humiliate the child. and it does sound like they intend to beat their child with it. There is a difference between beating and discipline to me.

that's just my opinion though.

 

[OlliOlliOlli]

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I'm sorry that I said it like that, I know accidents happen...but these girls all make it a point to do it together because there's no one giving them the leg-up on life...they think it's cute, cool, special, and an act of rebellion.