Frostbite help...

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So with the arctic cold, and daytime temperature yesterday of -20F, three of my four chickens have frostbite. And yes, my coop is well ventilated, and I have never seen any moisture anywhere in the coop. All of the eaves are open, all of the time. Probably doesn't help much, when outside humidity, even when well below zero, is near 70% or even higher.

In any case, my first to get frostbite actually happened about a week ago, when we had several extremely humid days in the teens.

Here she is, with fairly extensive frostbite on her comb and wattles. Now, she often dunks her wattles in the water if I use a dish or pan, so for winter I switched to a heated nipple waterer. But, the way she drinks it, it still dribbles down onto her wattles. She also often gets her head under the nipples when others are drinking, to catch the drops. Stupid, I know.
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Here are two of the other who also have a little less, but still too much frostbite:
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Now, one thing to note....the pictures make it look like the frostbite has moved to the blackened stage, but the black you see is merely dirt from when I was putting bag balm on them. It tended to collect a lot of it, and make their combs/wattles black.

How should I treat this? From reading here, it sounds like I should just let it go, and watch out for infection. The worst of the..the first picture...the tip is starting to blister. Also, one of the other chickens is starting to peck at the frostbit combs of the others, and I am starting to see some bleeding in the tips.

It's bad, I know, and I feel awful about it. I really don't think I could have done anything better though, as even the run, while covered In plastic, has plenty of ventilation. The eaves are open, there is a ridge vent, and the end of the run is open at the top. I think the wind blowing in there would have made things even worse at -20 temperatures.

Thoughts? I do have blu-coat, with an applicator, not the spray type, but am reluctant to put it on yet, for fear of it causing the flesh to freeze even more. Temperatures here are supposed to get to mid 30s to 40s for Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, so I would feel more comfortable putting the blu-coat on on Saturday. Later next week it is supposed to get back down into the teens and lower single digits again...sigh...winter sucks.
 
So with the arctic cold, and daytime temperature yesterday of -20F, three of my four chickens have frostbite. And yes, my coop is well ventilated, and I have never seen any moisture anywhere in the coop. All of the eaves are open, all of the time. Probably doesn't help much, when outside humidity, even when well below zero, is near 70% or even higher.

In any case, my first to get frostbite actually happened about a week ago, when we had several extremely humid days in the teens.

Here she is, with fairly extensive frostbite on her comb and wattles. Now, she often dunks her wattles in the water if I use a dish or pan, so for winter I switched to a heated nipple waterer. But, the way she drinks it, it still dribbles down onto her wattles. She also often gets her head under the nipples when others are drinking, to catch the drops. Stupid, I know.
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Here are two of the other who also have a little less, but still too much frostbite:
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Now, one thing to note....the pictures make it look like the frostbite has moved to the blackened stage, but the black you see is merely dirt from when I was putting bag balm on them. It tended to collect a lot of it, and make their combs/wattles black.

How should I treat this? From reading here, it sounds like I should just let it go, and watch out for infection. The worst of the..the first picture...the tip is starting to blister. Also, one of the other chickens is starting to peck at the frostbit combs of the others, and I am starting to see some bleeding in the tips.

It's bad, I know, and I feel awful about it. I really don't think I could have done anything better though, as even the run, while covered In plastic, has plenty of ventilation. The eaves are open, there is a ridge vent, and the end of the run is open at the top. I think the wind blowing in there would have made things even worse at -20 temperatures.

Thoughts? I do have blu-coat, with an applicator, not the spray type, but am reluctant to put it on yet, for fear of it causing the flesh to freeze even more. Temperatures here are supposed to get to mid 30s to 40s for Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, so I would feel more comfortable putting the blu-coat on on Saturday. Later next week it is supposed to get back down into the teens and lower single digits again...sigh...winter sucks.

I was wondering how things were for you today after another severely cold night last night! I'm east of St. Paul and we got down to -28 overnight. The girls did ok again but all four have a bit of frostbite on the tips of their combs today. I've got the dab on blu-coat too but from what I understand it's best to just leave frostbit alone.

My coop is very dry with no moisture anywhere and it has plenty of ventilation. In addition, I've got plastic over my run walls to block the wind so I'm not really sure why the frostbite has occurred other than the fact that it has just been so extremely cold. Prior to the last couple of days everything has been going great so I'm eager to hear any recommendations as well.
 
I was wondering how things were for you today after another severely cold night last night! I'm east of St. Paul and we got down to -28 overnight. The girls did ok again but all four have a bit of frostbite on the tips of their combs today. I've got the dab on blu-coat too but from what I understand it's best to just leave frostbit alone.

My coop is very dry with no moisture anywhere and it has plenty of ventilation. In addition, I've got plastic over my run walls to block the wind so I'm not really sure why the frostbite has occurred other than the fact that it has just been so extremely cold. Prior to the last couple of days everything has been going great so I'm eager to hear any recommendations as well.
Other than the frostbite, they are acting normal. The one pecking the others combs is just cruel, but they are chickens, and I guess that is just in their nature. Everyone was a lot more active this afternoon when the temps got up near 0. I even got four eggs today! Sadly, I didn't get out there in time, and two were frozen and cracked already.
 
Frost bite is actually a burn. Do not put Anything on it. Vaseline after the fact smothers the tissue and promotes infection. Don’t rub or clean the tissue. The tissue will die and fall off.

The best thing you could do is figure out where the moisture in your coop is and fix that problem. Poor ventilation or not enough ventilation causes frostbite.
 
Sorry about your frostbite. It is impossible to prevent it with your temperatures, and the spike in humidity that you had. I keep a thermometer with a hygrometer inside my coop. It is always very low during the cold winter weather, and the other day it was just 10% humidity with single digit temps. I would not put anything on the combs or wattles, but it might help to separate them in a dog crate with food and water if they are being pecked. Do not handle or massage the combs or wattles. Your hen’s comb will probably become more rounded off in a month or two, and she will have less of a comb to get frostbitten.
 
I would work on getting temp and humidity sensors to put in coop. Mine is on coop door held by Velcro and it reads on the device and in my home on a small wireless panel. You want humidity in coop as low as possible with no evidence of moisture or condensation or icing on inside of coop. Humidity should be no higher than 60-70’s and often is much lower. I compare mine to natural air humidity on my cell phone. Coop/run should be covered with no drafts. Winterize coop with insulation, plastic over closed windows, curtains around windows or pop door to protect against drafts, etc. I have one small top vent in top of coop open. Make sure no drafts over head on combs and wattles when on roosts. Make sure roosts support chickens covering feet with breast feathers to cover feet. Should not have floor drafts. Block drafts on doors if have shed coop. If need to add heat source that is fireproof in coop. See support items in article when goes below freezing. I have a K and H heating pad for mine on wall of coop. I have a heated waterer base. Keep heated waterer. Use waterer that prevents drips Best you can nipples or cups or fountain to protect wattles. Vaseline is for prevention on combs/wattles. Once frostbite rewarm affected area to normal body temp. Watch for infection. Need oral antibiotics if infected. Do not apply products to frostbite without vet rec. can cover with clean gauze and vet wrap to protect if part of body able to do that with. Do not put back in a freezing temp environment, worsens injury.
Use straw for bedding as holds heat better. Use thick snow/waterproof tarps found at harbor freight to cover coop/run areas all sides for wind block or thick clear plastic. I close my pop door and lock in coop with heater when at single digits to below zero temps. I would look at winterizing articles. Some have also used straw bales to insulate walls as well as throw down in coop.
Pics above look like black areas are dried dead tissue from frostbite and will slough off on own. Do not remove as protects healthy tissue and prevents infection. The key is to remove moisture or humidity, combined with freezing temps, and in decreased circulatory areas. Use Vaseline for prevention on healthy tissue to protect against moisture. Hope this helps. Sorry so long. Don’t be afraid to add heat sources safely in coop so chickens can warm. I have my heated items plugged into a fireproof multi outlet box. One cord goes from house to box on external house plug. All cords are indoor/outdoor. Be warm and be safe! I check on my chickens 3x day during freezing temps and all connections for heated items as well as access to water. Make sure you have adequately blocked wind during these checks. Adjust as necessary.
 
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ya its been -28 here what I did was block half of the vent on both side and have heat lamp on will turn off Saturday temperature will climb to 28 degrees. I only put lamp on when it start dropping -5 and stay haven't had problem with comb. but my coop is well insulating well.
 

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