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[trilyn]

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Okay, I've read about the ivermectin and wazine-how do you treat the birds. Do you put it in water or on their beak? Please clarify for us newbies.

I really want to do right by my birds.

 

[threehorses]

Yogurt you can do whatever way works. You can give each part of a spoon full individually. That way you know they all got some. Honestly I use a spoon or even a dropper and just squidge a little bit in their mouth in the side (not down the throat) so they have to tongue it back and they won't choke on it. it's the right thickness for that. Dosage isn't exact - somewhere between 1 teaspoon to four tablespoons per bird. It won't hurt them unless they eat just tons of yogurt.

That way you're also examining each of them for other things - weight, etc, to make sure they're doing good. It's a great once a month way of keeping tabs on weights, etc, to prevent illness.

You can also try making a mash. Take up their food at night. In the morning, mix a batch of crumbles, yogurt, some mashed egg yolks if you feel like it, and water. Mix it quickly to get the yogurt in all of it. Then let it sit until it's as dry or wet as it's going to be - about five minutes. Then set that out there and make sure each bird gets some. Then clean the pans and put out their usual food. Have a good sit and watch them, see who gets bullied out of eating. You can even use a black sharpie pen to put a dot or line on top of the bullied ones so that when you need to check them later, you can find the ones whose weight you want to monitor more quickly and not have to pick each bird up. The dots go away and you can't see them so they're not ugly.

I found out that tip by accident as one of my newest chicks had a dot on her head from the hatchery. It really helped me pick her out, and thus the dotted head was born. /wink

Since your birds have access to woods, I'd definitely have a twice a year worming program in place. If you buy ivermectin, buy generic drop-on. It only takes a couple of drops - talk to us when you get it and we'll give you a dosage. You can even see if you can talk to neighbors or friends about going in with them on some.

Also, ivermectin for the water is available online at some pigeon suppliers. It's less expensive than the drop on (unless you go generic). The reason I like the spot-on again is it allows me to monitor my flock and catch light-weights before they become sick and possibly make the rest of the flock sick.

Prevention is my biggest money saver.

Cheers!

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

USING CAYENNE PEPPER NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER THE ROUND WORMS AND THE OTHER WORMS TREATMENT IS DONE

the 3 tbsp of cayenne pepper in gallon of crmbles feed
do this as only feed

also on the whole oats in a feeder
and feed granite grit in a feeder
oats are good for the laying hens
and takes the fat off the gut of the bird
so it makes healthier chickens

but you have to feed the higher protein feed for the birds

any questions email me

 

[trilyn]

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OMG that would be like a scene from "Birds" to try and give them yogurt individually!! lol

They practically kill me now when I step into the coop looking for treats that I might have brought them. I get what you're saying-I could do that easily enough. Thanks for the replies!! Alot of interesting info on this thread for sure. I'll be shopping for ivermectin and wazine now to add to my chickie med cabinet.

 

[Hillbilly Rooster]

I have not noticed any weight lose but gain. They lost a little after molting when it got hot but put weight back on.

I am going to go with the yogurt first and then get to TSC tommorrow morning.

I am using 16% Dumors layer feed crumble and the oats.

 

[threehorses]

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OK, I just wanted to make sure your main bulk of the feeding program was a complete feed. Good! Personally I prefer oats over corn as a feed product as they tend to be of higher quality, have less tendancy to harbor mildew and molds and fungi (thus less chance of aspergillosis), and they're higher in protein by about 2%. Also, their husks are cleasing to the digestive tract and have a slight prebiotic action. They put a nice body on a bird without much empty fat. Their phosphorus content is high - any grain is - so make sure you just feed less than 10% of their diet in this unless you have training in feed design. That 10% is where you can add things to give them condition, as you are. And keep them happy!

By the way, heat will take weight off. Molting will, too, as they're putting resources into building feathers. that's another good time to add protein and probiotics to their diet. That's when I use yogurt over any other probiotic, even my beloved Probios, because of the calcium and protein in it. Feathers need both of those ingredients. The yogurt will keep their systems in balance through their stress.

(Obviously as is my habit) I could go on forever.

I just love these birds and helping others get a really good conditioned flock on the cheap.

 

[threehorses]

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LOL yeah I know. Even typing it, I see a picture in my head of someone rounding up birds one at a time and saying outloud "Darn that threehorses! She's crazy!!"

It takes a good afternoon. It helps to alot a large amount of time so you don't feel rushed. Sometimes getting them when they roost helps. I always pen mine in a small area and catch them one at a time (they running like I'm Godzilla in Japan all the while). I'd put a little foldable table up with my stuff on it - outside the small area or else it'll tumble. (Putting it all in a bucket helps, too.) Then put the bird on it, do my thing, examine them, and let them loose outside.

Then back in for the next customer.

Keep some drinks handy. And honestly, I'm beginning to think that every chicken owner (myself included) should buy one of those leg hooks! In fact, I think I'm finally going to go buy one now.

 

[Laura1166]

I have a large flock of free-ranging chickens and recently I thought they had worms because I hadn't been doing any preventative treatments and they were acting strange. The guy at the local feed store recommended that I just put 2 TBS. of apple cider vinegar to every gallon in their waterer. He has used it on advanced cases of worms with success before. I did that and my chickens loved it! It did seem to clean them out. I don't know if they actually had worms or not, but from what more I read on the internet, it certainly did a lot of good. I encourage you to read about apple cider vinegar benefits as well. Just when you put in the google search window use the word poultry instead of chicken or you will get a bunch of recipes.

It's simple and it's cheap! Just make sure you use the all natural cloudy stuff - not the clear vinegar.

Laura

 

[threehorses]

ACV doesn't cure an advanced case of worms, unfortunately. It was probably a bacterial imbalance. It'll help the gut health in a case of worms - but the worms either die off on their own or continue.

I say that, and I'm a huge fan of the stuff - but for what it can do.

 

[Hillbilly Rooster]

I thank you all for helping me with this part of raising my hens and this keeps getting to be better place to hang out.

I want to know talking about there feed should it be 100lbs of Layer feed to 25 or 50 lbs of oats?