well, as an update; I ordered 20, got 24. Two were rotten from the get go. 10 developed to full term 6 pipped, and 4 hatched at exactly 21 days. 2 blues, 2 splash. They are more for my free-ranging flock anyway. I am getting SQ Andalusians and White-faced black spanish from Butch Gunderson in the spring to add to the breeder pens. The 4 that hatched are VERY active, alert, and growing like crazy. I didn't have any cracked during shipment, however, all but about 2 had detached air cells. I don't know if it is common practice to ship with the eggs on their sides, but I am sure this will contribute, along with the postal folks. Packing was not how I would have done it for sure. Shipping was fast and she was nice. She doesn't advertise show birds, so I didn't expect any. All in all, I do feel that fertility should have been better regardless of the distance. The chicks in my avatar are these Andalusian chicks. Too early to tell how they will turn out. They are just under a month old now.